Star Wars episode 9: The Rise of Skywalker
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Been listening to a lot of recaps and pods on specifically fan's reactions to RoS. Honestly I get now why people were so pissed at TLJ. People who I listened to last time that hated TLJ that complained about the story not making sense, the force powers not making sense, stupid side quests, etc. Those things are even more prevalent in RoS, I don't think that's debatable.
But I'm hearing again and again grown men talking about tearing up with Han Solo returning in a vision to Kylo/Ben. I'm hearing them talk about how effecting the Luke force ghost talking about how he was wrong and raising the X-Wing got to them. I'm hearing them say that these are the best parts of the movie.
IMO I think it's evident where the divide is in the fanbase. There is a lot of fans that really did just want to see it run back with their old buds from the OT. There was a section of the fanbase that wanted something new. These things are at odds with each other.
Again, I don't blame Rian Johnson or JJ for any of this. This series needed a creative director to helm the story. Rian said that he wasn't given a frame to work with when he was given TLJ. That's foolish. It shows. It also shows that I think it was foolish to give us a story with these same characters as it was always going to go this way.
But I'm hearing again and again grown men talking about tearing up with Han Solo returning in a vision to Kylo/Ben. I'm hearing them talk about how effecting the Luke force ghost talking about how he was wrong and raising the X-Wing got to them. I'm hearing them say that these are the best parts of the movie.
IMO I think it's evident where the divide is in the fanbase. There is a lot of fans that really did just want to see it run back with their old buds from the OT. There was a section of the fanbase that wanted something new. These things are at odds with each other.
Again, I don't blame Rian Johnson or JJ for any of this. This series needed a creative director to helm the story. Rian said that he wasn't given a frame to work with when he was given TLJ. That's foolish. It shows. It also shows that I think it was foolish to give us a story with these same characters as it was always going to go this way.
Has anyone else discussed the Palpatine/Rey thing? When I first watched the force awakens, I noticed that at first Rey's attack style is very....stabby. Now go back and watch Revenge of the Sith... Palpatine is very stabby when he goes after Jedi's tasked with taking him in. So when they revealed that Palpatine would be in #9, it wasn't a shock to me that Rey was from his bloodline. Anyone else notice that? I went back and rewatched those scenes and it's not as striking as I recall, but I don't remember anyone else doing that two handed stab with their laser sword.
I mean, she also reflected force lightning. That's something only Mace Windu could do. She's the lovechild of Palpatine and Mace?
I would watch the heck out of that drama.
That is some Shakespearean wheels-within-wheels-within-wheels stuff there.
Putting another layer on it --
This could be BS made up by the JJ camp to deflect blame. I have called him a hack several times on here, but, assuming the above is at least partially true, it really shows him as the victim of Disney micromanagement and mismanagement.
It also makes the meta-commentary in Ford v. Ferrari about how making a fast car is like making a good movie all the more appreciable.
It's idiotic to be crazy about budget on a movie with the potential long term legs of a potentially great Star Wars installment.
I watched this last night and I really liked the movie. There were at least three scenes that gave me goosebumps. That being said, I'm not a hardcore fan and I only watch episodes starting with A New Hope. If the movie is entertaining, I'm fine with it. I can see how people way more into the entire SW universe could be upset.
My one question - what happened to Kylo Ren's facial scar in his final scene? Goof up or did I miss something?
My one question - what happened to Kylo Ren's facial scar in his final scene? Goof up or did I miss something?
https://www.esquire.com/entertainme...-wars-9-original-script-colin-trevorrow-leak/
Original episode IX (maybe). I could have gotten behind this.
Original episode IX (maybe). I could have gotten behind this.
It seems real and it also seems like something Disney execs would dump.
I think Disney screwed up by doing a whole new trilogy. Stand-alone movies combined with live action series would have been enough. If they wanted a whole new trilogy, they should have done a completely different era.
Finally got to watch this. Overall, enjoyed it. Loved all the cameos by old characters. Chewie finally got his medal!
Trilogy overall was weird.
Also, Daisy Ridley is bae.
Trilogy overall was weird.
Also, Daisy Ridley is bae.
