MONDAY MUSINGS: Hoops thoughts, football coaching changes, don't be a jackass
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exactly. Or how playing earlier makes him more tired at the end of a game when we need him.
Good snapshot of this program RIGHT NOW. Not next year, not about the new kids and their potential, not about growth with this year's class, not about CSP's track record as a head coach but RIGHT NOW with a loss to a league team on the road and that horrific loss to FA&MU.
We have 3 guys that would play on good teams. That's it
This is the problem.
The question I have is there anything Prohm can do about it in the next season or two?
Next year looks brutal when we lose Haliburton.
Look at the trajectory of the program under Prohm. It's downtrending. 2017 was bad. Last year the team really underperformed considering the talent. This year is still playing out, but there's not a whole lot of positive.
Landing an impact grad transfer guard to replace Haliburton is a must and he hasn't shown he can do that
I don't want him fired, it'll be too much of a mess to clean up if we do, I think we've seen his ceiling but I'll be going nuts Wednesday night when KU comes to Hilton and every other game the rest of the year, I'll be just as passionate. There should just be a difference between legitimate criticisms of Prohm in discussions here and jackasses going after people on twitter. Many people are attacking anyone who isn't sunshine and roses all the time. We should be able to talk about things that went wrong and give our opinions about that. I think CW was saying similar, I don't think he was calling for a gag order on anything negative.
Saturday was the perfect example, Prohm made great adjustments in the 2nd half but Dixon was one step ahead of him when he tried to foul at the end of regulation. That happens, being aware of that or admitting that doesn't mean you hate Prohm, want him fired or are a ****** fan. You have people equating that to tweeting at players (not saying you are doing that).
I agree with you in principle, but there are two issues the way I see it. 1, it seems like we start every half terribly. We can't continue to dig ourselves a hole to start a half while our 2nd best player sits on the bench. 2, George misses out on a rotation when he sits the first 6-7 minutes of a half. If you start him and are strategic with his rests, you can get him a couple more minutes per half.
CycloneErik
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And, just to note, this is a poster who looks for the positive in the programs.
Not a generally negative sports guy.
And I think thats where a lot of us Prohm out guys are worried. We felt CPR was given way too much time from Pollard and do not want to see the same mistake made. Change doesn't happen without others pushing for it. Obviously keep it respectful and don't personally attack the team or the coaches, but to ask others, who are sharing their frustrations in a respectful way, to be silenced is ridiculous.
Yeah, I've been full steam ahead with Steve, even after last season, but that loss last week was sobering and sort of shook me awake. We're downtrending pretty hard the last three seasons.
CycloneErik
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If a game is close down the stretch and it looks like we need someone to draw up a play or make something happen, and that someone is Prohm, I get a book or some work ready. Figure that I might as well get something done, since the ending will stink.
Optimistic like 'let's see what happens and look for good things' or optimistic like 'this really is a good team, they just haven't shown it for two months except for one or two games'?
The latter can hurt a fans' mindset because they don't face reality. After ISU went 7-5 in football, there were predictions of them winning handily over Notre Dame on here, likely with the 'best 7-5 team in the country' mantra staying strong, when in reality, 7-5 is 7-5 and it was why they finished 7-6.
If in March, the team is sub.500 over all, and there's still fans that can't believe the team loses another game in Hilton or something, their optimism has bent their perception.
I am not necessarily a Prohm out guy at this moment (although I too think the trajectory is becoming more obvious), but this sums it up better than I could've.
It's the sad truth. Great guy, just not much in the way of an X's and O's guy.
Even after last season when he won the Big 12 Tournament Championship and got us a 6 seed?
Neither are you. I knew when you started questioning things, we were in for some rough times
