Average OL do not get better - they just get more snaps. Look at current fiasco - now that we don’t have CPR players to blame whatever shall we do! All CMC now - so no more hiding behind the process!
Average OL do not get better - they just get more snaps. Look at current fiasco - now that we don’t have CPR players to blame whatever shall we do! All CMC now - so no more hiding behind the process!
I feel like the upperclassmen were likely better than the younger guys this year but I think the younger guys are more talented if that makes sense. I am happy the majority of the young guys weren’t needed to play too early and have had a chance to develop while staying healthy.
I'm tired of always being.... "2-3 years away". We all said that a couple years ago when our OL was all sophs. We thought when they were all seniors we'd have a dominant OL. How'd that turn out?
It turned out that we had a fairly competent OL for a change.I'm tired of always being.... "2-3 years away". We all said that a couple years ago when our OL was all sophs. We thought when they were all seniors we'd have a dominant OL. How'd that turn out?
It turned out that we had a fairly competent OL for a change.
I don’t recall anyone being buck stupid enough to say that they were suddenly going to go from sub par to “dominant” as seniors. I do remember people saying they expected them to put it all together as seniors—which is what this bunch did, maximizing their potential.
Typical clonedude post, misconstruing what people were actually saying.
Unless he has a euphemism for phallus as his name he won't be a successful FB for ISU. See Jeff Woody and Ryan Kock.When he was being recruited, I had heard that the coaches may use him as a fullback at times.
I'm tired of always being.... "2-3 years away". We all said that a couple years ago when our OL was all sophs. We thought when they were all seniors we'd have a dominant OL. How'd that turn out?
if the coaching staff would have thought the young guys would make our OL better they would have played (been needed).I feel like the upperclassmen were likely better than the younger guys this year but I think the younger guys are more talented if that makes sense. I am happy the majority of the young guys weren’t needed to play too early and have had a chance to develop while staying healthy.
Agreed. And I wish we would move Manning to o-line coach and let him focus on just that while finding someone else to call plays. It wont happen, but I think the o-line needs extra focus.To me, we've seen what you get when you bring in a bunch of OLs with no other P5 offers. They struggled big time the past few years. JGJ and Meeker had a few other offers and ended up OK. Knipfel was hidden at JUCO and still had offers and he was maybe our best OL. What we're getting now are OLs that have multiple legit P5 offers. Unfortunately, those guys are going to be pretty green next year.
I think what we saw this year was an OL that went from bad to average. They probably maxed out. But, the young guys on the roster have a higher ceiling. It just depends on how long it takes them to reach it. I feel like by the end of next year, we should have an OL that is better than it was at any point this season. But it could be a little rocky starting out.
if the coaching staff would have thought the young guys would make our OL better they would have played (been needed).
Who do you think will be the starters on the O-line next year? They should all be Campbell guys at this point, so hopefully we see some improvement.
My prediction:
T- Ramos
G- Downing
C - Newell
G- Hufford
T- Trieber
Could also see Rob Hudson be in the mix as well at Guard.
The closer you are to the football the more you can anticipate improvement throughout a career. That means interior linemen and quarterbacks can and do improve a lot but guys that are far from the ball (WR, RB, DBs) you typically know what you've got right away their freshman/soph year. They aren't going to suddenly get fast and explosive. Offensive tackles aren't suddenly going to grow 6 inches and become a mauler.
Obviously this is a very general statement but you can use that as a rule of thumb.
if the coaching staff would have thought the young guys would make our OL better they would have played (been needed).
I’ll reiterate, I’ll be fairly surprised if Treiber starts at right tackle.RT: huge question mark... I guess I would go Trieber if I have to pick someone on the roster; grad transfer possible or if they think Newell can slide out to tackle, he is also possible here.
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