I think TJ would come back, albeit at above market price. I don't think Pollard would ask him though.
This is why Prohm must go........
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You don’t need to be a 3 point team, but you need one weapon to keep the other team in check behind the the arc. Who is that guy for us?
Please read my post that you replied to. I said I don't care about 3 point shooting this year. We have Bolton and Hali who can drive with ease when they want to. It's my opinion 1 of them should be driving to the basket every time down court. That opens up spots for others or they can finish which they are both good at.
There were a lot of the “fans” hoping for 0-2
last night was awful. And with every loss the crewe becomes more and more difficult.
the best is we have gone from Fred ball washers to TJ ball washers.
gonna be a fun winter. Hope we can win some games so these folks get even madder when they can’t post here.
it doesn’t matter if “you” don’t care about three point shooting. If you don’t have perimeter shooters, you have no outer threat, thus the other team plays zone. If the other team plays zone, the lanes are clogged and you have no room for the pick and roll for Hali. Thus you’ve shut down our best offensive player
If you put Haliburton in a corner, we wouldn't win another game all year. Him and Conditt in the pick and roll has been our most efficient offense so far. One of the reasons Iowa's zone killed us was because this was really our only successful offense so far. Bolton only drives with his right hand, Nixon can't finish anything off the dribble, and you aren't going to ask Jacobson or Young to handle the ball either. Best offense is to run the pick and roll, and if Bolton or Nixon is on the side, make people close out to create their lanes.
Also, you said to put him in isolation with the floor spread. That doesn't work against a zone either!!!
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Actually it does matter because it's my opinion, just like what you are saying matters because it's your opinion. I'm not the coach and you are the coach so what we discuss is just fodder on a message board.
Do you know why we didn’t do the pick and roll last night? Because Iowa showed zone. You know why Iowa showed zone, because we have no perimeter threat. Who won the game in result?
Iowa plays 80-90% zone year round, it wasn't just for us. Also, the corner isn't the best spot for the 3 pointer against the zone. Haliburton had plenty of looks from 3 that he wisely passed up. Key is getting it to someone in the middle of the zone and playing from there. We started doing that in the second half and Iowa adjusted to bring a 4th defender to one side of the court to open up the skip pass, however with no Hali cutting middle they didn't do it. So I don't know how we are supposed to put Hali in a corner to have him put shots up.
my opinion is that we need to go iso offense for the first five possessions and let Hali ball until the other teams catches on and transition back to regular pick and roll offense. I also think we should play a full court press and force the other team to turn the ball over a ton.
Prohm is too stubborn to make any changes though.
put Hali in position for more three point shots. Usually that’s a swing offense with him as a 3, which results him in the corner.
Haliburton has shown 0 isolation moves one on one so far. I have no idea where you are getting that idea in your head.
I actually agree with your first paragraph. But I would like us to get Bolton started earlier too. Once he gets going he's near unstopable - see the 2nd halfs of the 2 games prior to Iowa.
What you are trying to say is putting him in the 4 slot, a SHORT CORNER POSITION. Against a zone you aren't supposed to make your way all the way to the corner. Get to the short corner instead.
Rewatch the game last night. Several times he drove the lane, through several defenders and made a shot.
Not surprising numbers honestly. Prohm has been "okay". But I am getting frustrated with that when I don't see improvements made. I'm talking in-game tactics like offense and defensive sets - Prohm sticks to his guns on these and we all know that. Also, rotation and minutes allocation - we all see Conditt's rapid growth and some of us are worried about Prohm's long-term approach to coaching the underclassmen up.
Before last year's season Prohm mentioned that he had the players read a book called "Chop Wood Carry Water". It's essentially a story about a guy that decides to move to learn from an oldschool sensei the skills to being a feudalistic Japanese samurai archer. It's a tedious process and to succeed you need to stay focused on the entire process of becoming what you want to achieve - greatness.
I remember one section the student is actually practicing archery and struggling while the sensei is quietly observing. The sensei goes and adjusts the student's stance, elbow angle, or something and his accuracy improves.
This is what I do not see from Prohm. Not just shooting (which is painful to watch this year), but plenty of other things where it's obvious that the players are not being corrected as needed. Look at our undisciplined fast break offense and defense. It's helter skelter. Sure the basics are there, but we have at least 1 player lacking in effort most of the time. That kills spacing on offensive breaks and forces awkward scramble defense on defense.
Prohm has touted having a free flowing offense for a while. He especially sold that when taking over after Hoiberg. He gives the players the freedom, but he's not making them play by his rules enough. Perhaps he gets some relatively better recruiting talent by selling that to the guys he goes after. That seems short-sighted and goes against the philosophy he says he's teaching his players. What I mean by that is that if he really was about instilling the idea of making his players "chop wood" and "carry water" then he'd get their asses in the right spot when running a fast break.
