There was an article the Wall Street Journal put out a few years ago where they concluded that there's a strong correlation between the number of starts on the OL and wins. Unfortunately this doesn't bode well for ISU next year.
OL going forward
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That tackle spot will be the key. The other 4 positions will be solid, with Downing and Newell being potential all conference types. RT has been a huge weakness for this team for years. Sounds like Treiber has the talent, but he's unproven.
If they can't get a GT at tackle, I'm pretty sure it will be Ramos and Trieber. I think with Foster he just doesn't have the quickness and hips for tackle in pretty much any offense. I think our offense would be fine with having a guy that's a straight mauler at one of the guards if he lacked lateral quickness, but he's so tall that's probably not a good fit. Unfortunately he's got a tackle frame and G hips and feet at best.
Glad someone put all the details in this thread. If you go back and look at recruiting this staff pulled miraculous rebuilds at a lot of positions, but O line wasn't one of them. So the position that takes the longest for new players to develop also had the slowest talent turn around.
I think the talent has been upgraded, but most of them still need some more development. I still think they are 2 years from being in a good spot. I'd expect next years line to have a lot of long term potential but still have similar results to this year.
I think the talent has been upgraded, but most of them still need some more development. I still think they are 2 years from being in a good spot. I'd expect next years line to have a lot of long term potential but still have similar results to this year.
The three points off of two turnovers is on Manning 100%. Completely inexcusable.
I would be shocked if anyone in the country had more false starts than ISU this last season. While getting beat badly as an OL is not fun, the team has to figure out a way to get better. 6-7 false starts in a game is horrible, and I can clearly recall 3 losses in the last year when ISU did that. Clearly there is something systematically wrong with what ISU is doing, and it needs to be fixed. As others have pointed out, it seemed like KSU knew the snap count better than the OL.
We were literally one of the least penalized teams in the country this season. JFC 6-7 false starts was not the norm.
People are greatly overlooking Jake Remsburg.
LT- Ramos LG- Downing C Newell RG- Hudson RT- Remsburg
LT- Ramos LG- Downing C Newell RG- Hudson RT- Remsburg
The O-line was better than last year.
Did it against WSU, Baylor and KSU. That is plenty of times for me to be concerned.
Now go pick 3 games where the o-line had minimal or no penalties. Being selective is super fun and GTFOH bringing in the WSU game, that was last season.
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Least penalized team and least penalized o-line are two different things. We have had a lot of pre snap penalties this year. Don’t have the numbers .. but way too many. Huge problem in the OU game as well.
ISU didn't have a false start against Baylor. Maybe you're thinking of the Oklahoma game?
It was improved...as evidenced by the difference of Hall most times facing first contact at the line of scrimmage versus Montgomery two yards behind it. Not where we need to be, but certainly an improvement. IMO we did take a step backwards when Newell got hurt. He's definitely Big 12 level. So was Good-Jones. Downing wasn't better than either of those two, but he certainly has a huge upside over Good-Jones.
Next year will be a challenge, but the line will represent an increase in the talent level. Hopefully their floor is where we left off this year.
Breakdown of false starts in each game:
UNI 0
Iowa 2
ULM 1
Baylor 0
TCU 1
WVU 2
TTech 1
OSU 1
OU 6
Texas 0
Kansas 1
KSU 6
UNI 0
Iowa 2
ULM 1
Baylor 0
TCU 1
WVU 2
TTech 1
OSU 1
OU 6
Texas 0
Kansas 1
KSU 6
Thanks for putting this together - I think it is safe to say the 6 in those two games may have impacted the outcome. With the youth of next years line if they can avoid having games like this they could be just as good as this year's line but will have more years ahead of themselves rather than this being the pinnacle.
I see a Tennessee olineman just entered the transfer portal. He's looking to pursue a master's in structural engineering, maybe a good fit for us.
