I just keep reading a story about the Des Moines Register hating kids with cancer. The rest of the story is fluff.
Aaron Calvin Speaks
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I might be mistaken but isn't that what Carson did? I think Calvin probably hung out with Randy Pete to much, tried to get emulate Randy didn't have enough seniority and got hung out to dry. (Sort of kidding with the 2nd sentence but Randy likes to throw stuff at walls and sees what sticks except he been around enough the Register won't can him.)
Edit: got lost in the statement Angie, we both agree that's what Carson did Sorry for the mix up @Angie.
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I agree, which is why I said generally. Also, the DMR was trying to gain points. Calvin isn’t the only one.
That’s the thing, call-out culture is more of a game of hysteria that’s a symptom of society learning how to deal with new ways of human group interaction, than it is about true ideological motivations. The left leaning comment was more a correlation to younger demographics being more common in the mediums that foster the network effect, technology and campuses. Clearly it’s not contained to that group.
Heck Al if you got a spot open where you work go ahead and hire Calvin and give him a shot at redemption. Reach out and help the young man.
Wow, i don’t feel sorry for this guy at all, he seems unrepentant and shows his true colors by trying to shift blame as so much of todays media does today
There was 1 anonymous call about 'burning the building down'. The building has had 3 (old, slightly disabled) security guards on staff for 10 hours x 2 & 1/2 days (as opposed to the 1 they have all the time), and slightly increased police presence outside.
Any/all death threats are bad & uncalled for, obviously - but let's not act like the DMR has been inundated with threats. They're rightfully doing what they need to do to cover their asses in case any sort of attack was actually carried out - that's it.
The security guards (not by any building doors, mind you) are only requiring employees to show their FOB (an unmarked dongle that businesses use to open doors after hours) to access the elevator. Any person from any company not in the building could show them something that looks like one & be on their way. It is security theatre, again, to cover liability in the rare case something were to happen.
As an employee on a different floor in the same building, I haven't been at all worried. The security employees' level of thoroughness/concern makes it clear what they're doing is for show.
Here with a quick PSA on Doxing. It isn't just calling a person out for questionable conduct or even digging up objectionable social media posts.
Doxing is a specific tactic that involves making personally identifiable information like a person's email accounts, phone numbers, and home / work address readily available to provoke intimidation and harassment of the target. It is employed by crazy people of all persuasions.
On an editorial note... if you are concerned about cancel culture you should be on the side of Mr. Calvin.
Yes, his tweets are objectionable but they have also only been presented out of context and he was given no chance to explain or apologize for his actions before being summarily fired. (Also can we just say that retweeting Kanye lyrics is problematic but not problematic ... altho i would like an explanation for the "marry a horse" bit)
To contrast, Mr. King got to hold a press conference apologizing for his actions and effectively diffused his past mistakes and eventually raised even more money for his cause due to the controversy.
So if you are keeping score. One guy lost his job without severance despite gross negligence from his direct superiors, and another guy raised millions for a charity but didn't get his face on a beer can and won't get free beer for life.
Wow this guy doesn’t get it. He’s taking no responsibility. And comparing himself with women and POC? Yikes. He really wants to be a martyr.
I don’t know what the “right wing” gains politically from taking down a no name reporter. I don’t know how he can twist this in his head and think this is a politically motivated attack.
I don’t know what the “right wing” gains politically from taking down a no name reporter. I don’t know how he can twist this in his head and think this is a politically motivated attack.
He thought it was ok. He basically says in the buzzfeed article that it was taken out of context and misunderstood.
Even though the DMR is denying it given what Calvin said in the Buzzfeed article I assume he's the one that leaked Ck's tweets to Busch?
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Sometimes I just have random spells of yelling the n word, screaming homophobic slurs, and bouts of claiming allegiance to the Nazi party....but I'm always taken out of context when I do that. It's not fair...
Yeah,, I agree, sorry this is not a right wing, left wing thing. Pretty much pissed everyone in the state off by digging in to something he didn't need to. I feel about as bad for him as I do the Iowa band. Sometimes when you do stupid things it comes back to bite you.
I don’t get all the talk of the dmr throwing this dooosh under the bus......he was fired because of his own tweets, not what he did to King. Granted, what he did to King shed light on his tweets....but they were HIS tweets. Scapegoat or under the bus means he is taking the blame for someone else. He put those tweets out knowing his employers policies.
Then you need to look deeper, if you can find them.
First, Calvin's were worse than what was implied for Carson. See here for a synopsis: https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/aaron-calvin/
Second, there were more of them over a much longer period of time and as recent as 2016 (as far as I can tell).
Third, this isn't a 'right wing' thing. I have seem many liberal people that have called this wrong or called for his firing including WaPo and NYT. Invoking 'the conservatives are out to get me' and claiming to be the victim in this just angers people more and is not accurate (which you would think a journalist would aspire to be).
Fourth, he wasn't fired for the article, he was fired because his twitter feed was not in line with DMR expectations.
Honestly, I don't think he would have been fired or that the blowback would have been nearly as bad if it weren't for his own checkered twitter feed. And instead of claiming a conspiracy against him, he needs to own that.
Do you get the hypocrosy that Calvin exudes at all? He used 2 tweets from 8 years ago as a compass on Carson and totally ignored more recent posts that supports ending racism. Granted, it was the editors call to include them, but I suspect he was fully in the conversation.
All the while, Calvin's own twitter feed was littered with racist, anti-cop, hate the USA tweets. How is it possibly ok for Calvin to tweet was he tweets, but use Carson's own tweets against him???
Facts are facts.
The reporter found some offensive tweets by the subject of an article and reported it. That's what journalists do. They shouldn't decide what to report according to its impact on the subject (exceptions for minors, victims of sexual abuse, and families of victims who haven't been notified).
The Register found some offensive tweets by an employee and fired him. That's what companies do. They must make decisions about whether an employee's background is more costly than beneficial.
In both cases, the facts would be exposed sooner or later.
Carson King wisely got ahead of the story about him, became truly transparent, confessed his mistakes, and explained evidence that he has matured. He is likely to land on his feet as a local hero.
Aaron Calvin seems to be focused on defending himself. If he doesn't show himself to be a loose cannon that even the most liberal paper doesn't want around, and if he actually has talent as a journalist (we know he can do good research!), he can still be a free-lancer as that is what most newspaper writers are anyway these days. And then he can spend the rest of his life on the lecture circuit as the poster boy of being canned for just doing your job. His tweets would have caught up with him eventually, even if this incident had never happened.
The reporter found some offensive tweets by the subject of an article and reported it. That's what journalists do. They shouldn't decide what to report according to its impact on the subject (exceptions for minors, victims of sexual abuse, and families of victims who haven't been notified).
The Register found some offensive tweets by an employee and fired him. That's what companies do. They must make decisions about whether an employee's background is more costly than beneficial.
In both cases, the facts would be exposed sooner or later.
Carson King wisely got ahead of the story about him, became truly transparent, confessed his mistakes, and explained evidence that he has matured. He is likely to land on his feet as a local hero.
Aaron Calvin seems to be focused on defending himself. If he doesn't show himself to be a loose cannon that even the most liberal paper doesn't want around, and if he actually has talent as a journalist (we know he can do good research!), he can still be a free-lancer as that is what most newspaper writers are anyway these days. And then he can spend the rest of his life on the lecture circuit as the poster boy of being canned for just doing your job. His tweets would have caught up with him eventually, even if this incident had never happened.
Totally disagree. I have heard a ton of liberal people rebuke Calvin for this. Not a Right wing thing at all.
Slightly disagree. The research is important. The 'choice' of the integration not so good. They could have even included it, but framed it in a manner beneficial to everyone. For example ... "
agree!!... and (blowback not being nearly as bad) if it wasn't the 'policy' of the Register to do a background check OR if the Register had 'framed' the content in an ethical manner. Makes one wonder if they're, retroactively, now performing 'background' checks on everyone they employ. If we don't hear of more firings, I suppose that isn't the case. Seems hypocritical if not.
