I hate having to go to Duff for everything. I want more development anywhere but Duff.
Pollard: big announcement coming soon
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I hate having to go to Duff for everything. I want more development anywhere but Duff.
Great comparisons. Living in St. Louis, it is amazing what the build out of Ballpark Village has done for the area around Busch Stadium. Cards games were already a destination (much like ISU games), but BV has just enhanced that and made the area a destination during the offseason and as a place to watch away games/other sports, etc. If this new project at ISU is anything like the 3 areas mentioned here, it will do nothing buy raise the bar on ISU gamedays IMO.
Host away game watch parties in this place ??? Yes please
100% agree but the problem is everything is already on Duff and unfortunately isn't going anywhere.
I want to see the concepts they were showing donors last week.
This release makes it sound like they're willing to kill all parking between Hilton and Jack trice and im thinking that's a problem
This release makes it sound like they're willing to kill all parking between Hilton and Jack trice and im thinking that's a problem
Don't kid yourself, the main reason why Iowa State doesn't offer stadium wide sales is because of $$$$. This is an exclusive benefit that JP can sell to the people donate a **** ton of money and he's not willing to sacrifice that yet.
Not gonna read the whole thread, but assuming the big announcement has something to do with a boycott of Kum&Go?
I just don't see how that could happen. I think we are losing sight of just how expansive the area is between Hilton and Jack Trice. I would imagine you could put up a hotel and a P and L type area and that footprint would still leave considerable area for parking.
This can be either a complete failure or really cool. I’m holding out hope and all but I need to see any sort of conceptual plan before I get excited.
It sounds like part of the plan is to move paved parking to the intramural fields east of the stadium. This would hurt Hilton parking, but maybe keep it the same for Jack Trice.
I totally get that and don't disagree. But we have the luxury of not caring what city people think. University administrators do not.
Either way I would still be curious to see how much parking is lost. Where do the donors get moved to? What happens to the donors that have already been shuffled due to the donation level increases? I'm guessing with the new project over on the intramural fields that the once talked about RV lot is no longer an option?
That’s 65 days massively better than nearly every other restaurant in Ames. The other 300 it’s no worse than a wash, and should be better if done correctly. When speaking of how tough it is for a bar/restaurant, which is true, how many are even comparable to this situation? Average Joe that doesn’t have an innate customer base opening up the 10th generic restaurant on same street.
It shouldn’t be to the scale of the P/L, but it can easily be the best location in Ames given that Duff is a disgusting abomination of late 20th century urban planning with identical options all competing against each other for slim profit margins. And it can be hell of a game day environment.
Many professional venues are exploiting this model, even Green Bay. Generally it happened organically in many college-towns in which the stadium was built near campus, typically called campustown.
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I must not be understanding the whole thing. Are they talking about doing something to the lots in between Jack Trice and Hilton? If so that would kill the one and only thing we have been good at for the last 40 years in football and that is tailgating. Sure you could still tailgate but it wont be the same. If I am reading it wrong then good. However, This would suck.
Now do you understand that the comment alluding to the allowance of the tail wagging the dog should be over?
A generational project to the front door of ISU shouldn’t be constrained by the politics a handful of local businesses interests that wouldn’t exist without ISU. They should damn near be offering JP and Wendy Keys to the city.
This is a fantastic delegation of vision. While most here see the athletics occupation, this will allow for expanding the use of the entire center. Really excited to see the architectural vision. Bet my bottom dollar this will be one of the student architectural design projects. I'd love to be back in school doing that.
Yeah but if you read the release it seems like they're looking at turning the whole area into a mixed use district, more than just a hotel and a P&L type area
I find the attachment to the current tailgating setup a little short-sighted. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate and enjoy tailgating. But we are talking about 7 days a year they get utilized. And even that is assuming good weather. You get rain or extreme cold, you're down the 5-6 days a year. Forfeiting some of that tailgating parking for something that can be utilized year round, and specifically can be utilized for basketball games, away-game watch parties, etc. is a much better use of that space.
Ames is about a 65,000 person town of which 25,000 people are gone 4 months per year. Green Bay is over 100,000 and they're all full time residents.
Almost all restaurants in Ames do great on game days. We can all hate on Duff for being a disaster (it is) but guess what? That's where traffic in Ames is at. A good chunk of almost any business making it is location. The Iowa State Center is a poor location outside game day.
If you could anchor the area with Hickory Park or Wallaby's that's one thing because their reputations may be able to overcome the location challenge but neither of them are going anywhere. No national chain is going to jump on being off the beaten path.
