Haliburton a 1st Rounder in latest CBS Mock

[Peter]

Agree to disagree, does he have a slow shot at times, yes. Can and does he speed it up? yes. Does his efficiency go down when sped up? I don't know, I don't have those statistics, but I would have to assume yes.

I've played with plenty of people in my life who have had funky shots, and "slow" releases. Who have been able to make a good living for themsleves playing basketball, and didn't have nearly the hype TH has currently (or the intangibles). But, looking at his shot now and saying he won't be able to get it off in the league is not fair in my opinion.

I agree. The biggest thing that matters in the NBA is %. TH is a very accurate shooter and has good range. Sure, he's not going to be running off screens for a catch and shoot, but not many NBA players do that anyway. Guys like Klay and Reddick are "specialists" in that regard. If he can spot up and hit threes at 40% he will have a long NBA career.

 

[srjclone]

That's fine. We don't have to agree. I feel like my observations are pretty self evident and something I have heard and read about pretty much all season. I don't know why people are getting so butthurt about it.

Here's what comes up when you look at draft analysis for him. Obviously these are bloggers, so you can attack the validity of the source if you want. I do think the first link has an interesting take on what he sees as TH's path in the NBA.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/01/06/draft-notes-understanding-tyrese-haliburton/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ripcit...draft-prospect-profile-tyrese-haliburton/amp/

Sure, you feel you are correct. That's fine, I'm not saying you can't feel that way. And I am in no way getting butt hurt. I just respectfully disagree. I do feel I understand basketball a bit, however, and when watching TH play I've never felt that he can't get his shot off. If anything, he is hesitant to shoot it and Prohm himself has publicly pushed him to let it fly more readily.

You stating he gets run off the 3 point line is as much his decision to not shoot as it is his inability to get the shot off. He sometime out maneuvers himself in his head, which I'd rather have in my young PG than the opposite of just always letting it fly without thinking.

I read from coaches this statement that highlights TH's game perfectly in my mind: "He’s not out there hunting shots for himself. He’s capable of knocking down shots whenever he does want to shoot the ball, but the best thing that I’ve seen, the most intriguing thing that I see with Tyrese is his ability to dominate a game without forcing bad shots.”

 

[LLCoolCY]

Josh Gershon released an article on Haliburton's NBA potential.

@JoshGershon #IowaState sophomore PG Tyrese Haliburton using FIBA u19 World Cup to continue rise from unheralded high school recruit to legitimate NBA prospect:

https://247sports.com/college/baske...BA-u19-World-Cup-United-States-USA-133359376/

 

[Thomasrickj]

I don’t think he gets drafted after this season unless he shows he’s a better and big time scorer. The dude is an excellent point guard, but people want to see him score more. I think he will be a 10 ppg and 7 assist guy, which is fine with me. Maybe after his junior season he could be a draft pick. I just don’t see it after this season.

 

[Cyientist]

Has anyone heard how Haliburton did at the Nike Skills Academy? I haven't seen much about it on the twitter or CF. I could have been getting work done and missed it though.

 

[jmb]

Agree, but unfortunately some players like THT believe the press clippings and hero ball ensues. Hopefully, Tyrese handles it a little better and continues his great team ball.

Tht gave Isu a Great effort. Wish we could leave “hero ball” et al out of commentary.

 

[Rabbuk]

Not good, I trust fred

 

[HFCS]

I don’t think he gets drafted after this season unless he shows he’s a better and big time scorer. The dude is an excellent point guard, but people want to see him score more. I think he will be a 10 ppg and 7 assist guy, which is fine with me. Maybe after his junior season he could be a draft pick. I just don’t see it after this season.

I don't think his age will matter as much if he goes as a junior given the off the charts length for a true point gaurd.

I'm not saying I don't think he could be a high pick next year, just that if he's a junior he'd be less likely to fall into the 'too old for a top pick' category given there aren't going to be many true point guards in any draft with his wingspan.

I watch follow the NBA closer than college and there can't be more than a handful of true point guards who have a longer wingspan. I don't even know what he measures, I just know he looks long even compared to NBA pgs.

 

[brokenloginagain]

many in the nba agree with CF that TH will be really good in the future....which is why he'll be drafted this year.

 

[Sigmapolis]

I don't think his age will matter as much if he goes as a junior given the off the charts length for a true point gaurd.

I'm not saying I don't think he could be a high pick next year, just that if he's a junior he'd be less likely to fall into the 'too old for a top pick' category given there aren't going to be many true point guards in any draft with his wingspan.

I watch follow the NBA closer than college and there can't be more than a handful of true point guards who have a longer wingspan. I don't even know what he measures, I just know he looks long even compared to NBA pgs.

Haliburton has a 7'0" wingspan according to this site...

https://ripcityproject.com/2019/04/21/2019-nba-draft-prospect-profile-tyrese-haliburton/

I went and found a source for all the combine measurements since 2000.

http://nbasavant.com/apps/combine.p...icalLT=&txtWingspanGT=&txtWingspanLT=#results

Filtering that in Excel for the longest wingspans for PGs...



If he is a legitimate 7' of wingspan (84"), then he would be the longest ever in the history of the combine for somebody listed at least partially as a PG in the database.*

He would actually shatter the record by three-quarters of an inch.

I suppose the database might miss guys who never went to the combine for measurements or maybe guys who started at SG or SF and moved to PG later in their career, but Tyrese has some superlative length even compared to the guys above.

*The database only goes through 2014, too, without further updates, but Tyrese is still going to be up there in any era. Is there anybody who would be longer right now?

 

[ILikeCy]

Haliburton has a 7'0" wingspan according to this site...

https://ripcityproject.com/2019/04/21/2019-nba-draft-prospect-profile-tyrese-haliburton/

I went and found a source for all the combine measurements since 2000.

http://nbasavant.com/apps/combine.p...icalLT=&txtWingspanGT=&txtWingspanLT=#results

Filtering that in Excel for the longest wingspans for PGs...

View attachment 65666

If he is a legitimate 7' of wingspan (84"), then he would be the longest ever in the history of the combine for somebody listed at least partially as a PG in the database.

He would actually shatter the record by three-quarters of an inch.

I suppose the database might miss guys who never went to the combine for measurements or maybe guys who started at SG or SF and moved to PG later in their career, but Tyrese has some superlative length even compared to the guys above. The database only goes through 2014, too, without further updates, but Tyrese is still going to be up there.

I saw a tweet of measurements from Nike Skills Academy, and I think his wingspan was 6'7" there. Sorry, don't have time to search for it right now.

 

[Sigmapolis]

I saw a tweet of measurements from Nike Skills Academy, and I think his wingspan was 6'7" there. Sorry, don't have time to search for it right now.

Okay -- being 6'7" versus a legitimate 7'0" would be a world of difference.

 

[CTTB78]

Tht gave Isu a Great effort. Wish we could leave “hero ball” et al out of commentary.

I'm sure CSP would have liked to have seen a different kind of 'great effort' at times, which would have resulted in a different commentary by teammates, the media, and fans.

 

[jmb]

I'm sure CSP would have liked to have seen a different kind of 'great effort' at times, which would have resulted in a different commentary by teammates, the media, and fans.

Can’t argue. But I think there were issues with the team in terms of chemistry and leadership.

 

[HFCS]

Haliburton has a 7'0" wingspan according to this site...

https://ripcityproject.com/2019/04/21/2019-nba-draft-prospect-profile-tyrese-haliburton/

I went and found a source for all the combine measurements since 2000.

http://nbasavant.com/apps/combine.p...icalLT=&txtWingspanGT=&txtWingspanLT=#results

Filtering that in Excel for the longest wingspans for PGs...

View attachment 65666

If he is a legitimate 7' of wingspan (84"), then he would be the longest ever in the history of the combine for somebody listed at least partially as a PG in the database.*

He would actually shatter the record by three-quarters of an inch.

I suppose the database might miss guys who never went to the combine for measurements or maybe guys who started at SG or SF and moved to PG later in their career, but Tyrese has some superlative length even compared to the guys above.

*The database only goes through 2014, too, without further updates, but Tyrese is still going to be up there in any era. Is there anybody who would be longer right now?

Nice digging, kind of confirms what my own eye test has suggested just by being a pretty big NBA fan for 30+ years.

He's not a combo, he's a true point guard.

 

[ILikeCy]

I saw a tweet of measurements from Nike Skills Academy, and I think his wingspan was 6'7" there. Sorry, don't have time to search for it right now.

Here it is...6'7.5".

 

[ILikeCy]

Here it is...6'7.5".

However, there's also this comment :

 

[Doc]

Tht gave Isu a Great effort. Wish we could leave “hero ball” et al out of commentary.

His foot may have been hurting him more than we realize as well.

 

[jmb]

His foot may have been hurting him more than we realize as well.

Had not considered that.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Haliburton has a 7'0" wingspan according to this site...

https://ripcityproject.com/2019/04/21/2019-nba-draft-prospect-profile-tyrese-haliburton/

I went and found a source for all the combine measurements since 2000.

http://nbasavant.com/apps/combine.p...icalLT=&txtWingspanGT=&txtWingspanLT=#results

Filtering that in Excel for the longest wingspans for PGs...

View attachment 65666

If he is a legitimate 7' of wingspan (84"), then he would be the longest ever in the history of the combine for somebody listed at least partially as a PG in the database.*

He would actually shatter the record by three-quarters of an inch.

I suppose the database might miss guys who never went to the combine for measurements or maybe guys who started at SG or SF and moved to PG later in their career, but Tyrese has some superlative length even compared to the guys above.

*The database only goes through 2014, too, without further updates, but Tyrese is still going to be up there in any era. Is there anybody who would be longer right now?

Pistol Pete might have been close. He was 6'5'' I believe.