MLB: ***Official 2019 St. Louis Cardinals Season Thread***

[throwittoblythe]

I don't dispute that Martinez is on the bottom-rung of right field defenders, but I question the premise that this outweighs his batting prowess. I watched several years of Matt Holliday in left field making bad plays, yet he was in the line-up every day. Why? Because he could hit.

Holiday was an average defender during his prime years. His outstanding offensive production made him a top tier player and his defense was nowhere near as bad as JMart (at comparable ages).

I would argue Holliday remained in the lineup even after he became a defensive liability because, yes, he could still hit. But also because he was the highest paid player on the team and a clubhouse leader. Just like JMart, he was frequently removed during late innings for a better defender.

 

[TheHelgo]

only a half game behind the big bad Cubs!

Mozeliak has to be looking to add a strategic piece at this point. Problem is that the market appears pretty dry at this point.

 

[throwittoblythe]

Isn’t it weird how the offense has opened up with Carpenter out? It’s almost like having a .200 hitter at the top of the lineup and management refusing to take him out is a bad thing...

Here’s to the cards proving me wrong about selling!

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Maybe this year will be like 2006, we sucked most of the season with injuries and poor play, and then took off towards the end. Keep throwing the young kids out there, and lets sweep the Bucco's.

 

[heitclone]

How does Carp play when he's back? Edmond is playing lights out. He's been the best leadoff hitter we've had this year. I guess he can play multiple positions, so maybe he takes time away from Munoz (who is playing good too) Oneil or Bader.

 

[throwittoblythe]

How does Carp play when he's back? Edmond is playing lights out. He's been the best leadoff hitter we've had this year. I guess he can play multiple positions, so maybe he takes time away from Munoz (who is playing good too) Oneil or Bader.

I dunno, but I have no doubt Carp will be back in his leadoff spot. Not because he deserves it but because the cards have a history of continuing to play veterans wasaayyy beyond their period of effectiveness.

 

[TheHelgo]

Good decision to leave Carp in Memphis for now. Bats seem to be clicking now, and I would hate to disrupt the current trend. Goldy hitting his stride as well. Would love to see the Cards make a play on the Mets' Thor (Syndergaard)!

I saw rumors of the Cards perhaps looking at Cincy's Puig - not sure that makes a ton of sense, unless they are moving J Martinez or Ozuna.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Good decision to leave Carp in Memphis for now. Bats seem to be clicking now, and I would hate to disrupt the current trend. Goldy hitting his stride as well. Would love to see the Cards make a play on the Mets' Thor (Syndergaard)!

I saw rumors of the Cards perhaps looking at Cincy's Puig - not sure that makes a ton of sense, unless they are moving J Martinez or Ozuna.

Puig is a free agent at the end of the year, getting him would be a risky move, unless you plan on plugging him into right, and move Fowler to center full time, and the bring in Bider for defense late in the game. Bider is hitting .201,
Plus I can not see the reds just giving him away, they will want quite a bit for him.

 

[throwittoblythe]

I saw rumors of the Cards perhaps looking at Cincy's Puig - not sure that makes a ton of sense, unless they are moving J Martinez or Ozuna.

This came up during the STL Post Dispatch's weekly Cards chat, as well. The writer dismissed the idea. Puig would cost too much and is a clubhouse challenge.

 

[matclone]

In the words of former Cardinal broadcaster, Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!". Cards win again and now in sole possession of first place. Another team effort. Goldschmidt homers for 5th game in a row.

 

[heitclone]

Those 1st place Cards!

 

[TheHelgo]

Goldy! Goldy! Goldy!

 

[matclone]

Puig would cost too much and is a clubhouse challenge.

Puig is a free agent at the end of the year, getting him would be a risky move

Puig would be a mistake. As we saw in the series with Cincy, he still makes poor decisions on the field (e.g., not hitting the cut off man)--like he always has. Even though he has a cannon for an arm, he is a loose cannon personality-wise.

 

[TheHelgo]

So, the trade deadline is a dud so far. I keep waiting for something to break with the the Cardinals, but there just doesn't seem to be any smoke at all. I will be shocked if they don't add a SP and potentially a lefty RP as well.

 

[throwittoblythe]

So, the trade deadline is a dud so far. I keep waiting for something to break with the the Cardinals, but there just doesn't seem to be any smoke at all. I will be shocked if they don't add a SP and potentially a lefty RP as well.

I’m keeping expectations low. Even if they do make some moves, I suspect they will get no-namers or washed up veterans. They don’t want to deal young pieces (of the few they have) and don’t have any veterans who would draw much interest from other teams.

 

[cmjh10]

They got some veteran lefty from the Dodgers. Sounds like a minor leaguer but has pitched some in the majors this year

 

[TheHelgo]

Great win last night! Two things need to happen today - First, another big win over the Cubs. Second, hopefully a meaningful pitching addition before 3pm! Let's Go Cards!

 

[TheHelgo]

BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Time for Mozeliak to go.

 

[cygrads]

BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Time for Mozeliak to go.

So disappointed - Houston certainly made some moves to win the WS.​

 

[TheHelgo]

Been listening to a lot of sports talk radio in St. Louis today while at work. Cards front office is getting destroyed by not only the sport talk personalities and fans in St. Louis, but also national MLB analysts. I love it. Mo and Girsch look like a couple of buffoons for sitting tight.

Rumor is that they didn't even bother approaching Arizona or Texas on Robbie Ray or Mike Minor, and balked at a Bader for Wheeler deal with NYM. WTF? We have a thousand outfielders and need SP and you won't give up a dude batting .195 and currently in the minors for a proven SP to make a run? If we were thin on OF, I guess I get it since Wheeler is a FA at the end of the year, but if there is one position that STL is set at, it is OF.

So incredibly disappointed.