Houston doubled hard every time he caught the ball.
This is why Prohm must go........
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Houston doubled hard every time he caught the ball.
Buffalo went over an hour of real time between made baskets against TT yesterday. Their coach is a popular choice to replace Prohm. **** happens with college players.
Agreed. Can someone change the title of the thread? I hate seeing something so ridiculous
I think there are several times more fans that would be upset if he left versus happy. Every fan base gets frustrated when things don't go perfectly, and we are clearly no different. I am willing to bet the vast majority of Cyclone fans want Prohm to be here for a long time.
Exactly....and it worked out pretty well. I'll just never understand why Prohm didn't....I kept getting so mad because there was no double the moment he caught it. They don't have a bunch of snipers out there so its just plain stupid we didn't double.
Curious what plays Prohm is supposed to call to make our scorers better shooters?
Because when Wiggington shoots 41% from the floor, THT 40%, and Babb at 40% (basically all of our jump shooters except Shayok), you are going to go through some scoring droughts...
Prohm has preached and preached and preached sharing the basketball. At some point its on the players to listen and execute.
Five consecutive losing seasons from 2007 - 2011.
However, it's an age old problem for Iowans going back to WWI.
In my opinion we played well enough on defense to win the game. I thought the team tried too hard to speed thing things up on offense that we got away from our typical production. Some of that is caused by youth and inexperience. We missed too many shots we were making against Baylor in KC. I know Nick wishes he had one back.
In the big picture, it really didn't work out any better or any worse than ISU's defensive strategy against OSU...
Posted this in another thread, but will post it here as well....
K. Wesson also shot more FTs against Houston. In the end, Wesson only scored 6 more points against ISU than he did against Houston, and that differential could have been even less because he missed several FTs (including front ends of 1-1). C.J. Jackson, who scored two points against ISU, had 18 against Houston.
Overall, ISU and Houston ended with very similar defensive efforts against OSU, even though the strategies were different:
- points given up: ISU 62, UH 59
- FG% allowed: ISU 39.7%, UH 38.8%
- TOs caused: ISU 11, UH 14
The issue on Friday night was ISU's offense, and giving up too many offensive rebounds.
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You are the one that said lets look across every game, so find me a game where this doesnt happen. Sure every basketball team has its slumps, it happens. But with this team it happened almost every single game no matter the opponent, and to me coaching can fix that.
Defense means securing rebounds, and once again, the team did not secure enough defensive rebounds. If you play "good defense" for 25 seconds and force a bad shot, and do not get the rebound (yes even with crazy bounces), then you did not successfully finish the defensive possession. Until this program puts 'rebounding' as its #1 emphasis/priority and sets it as THE cornerstone of the entire culture of the program, they will not take the next step. I have no doubt Iowa State can keep winning 20 games a year and get into the dance year after year. I also have no doubt that it will not be a significant threat to win the regular season conference title nor make a legitimate deep run until rebounding focus takes center stage. That's my opinion based on nothing but being a diehard fan and observer of college basketball for 25 years.
I agree, **** happens. But why is it every game with us? It happens against good teams, bad teams, and everything in the middle. Every single game and to me coaching can fix that, easy plays that work, Bill self has a million of these.
Oh I dont know, maybe draw up a play where someone gets an easy layup vs a contested 3 pt shot after standing around for 28 seconds. Plays like that exist.
That's a good perspective really, I'm more thinking along the lines of how easy his points came though due to a lack of the double team. I would have preferred that double I guess but that's just me. Is what it is at this point and on to next season.
I guess I should just wait 5 years of mediocrity for the rest of you to realize.
I don't even think it's remembering the McDermott years. I think holding the good years in much higher regard than they actually were. I think there were only two years that really stack up to what people think of when they think of ISU basketball history and they were in a time that the kids being recruited were barely alive for, if that. There's this idea that ISU is a basketball school, which may be true, but it's only because our football program was so awful that mediocrity looks like massive success.
That's not to say that mediocrity is fine but the coach here has gone to the NCAA tournament 3 out of 4 years and the year he didn't was completely understandable. He took a team from the worst in the conference to one of the best with one transfer and a recruiting class that is now a foundation to build an actual program. There was one or two years where there was consistent player presence with any sort of leadership and now it looks like it's going to be a steady program. That's completely different than how Fred started his program here even though the latter years did have that foundation. It's taken this long because Prohm had no way of building the 16 class.
Also, some perspective: Going to a bowl game puts you roughly in the top 50% of football programs. Going to the NCAA tournament puts you in roughly the top 18%. With how comfortably we've been in, we're probably somewhere in the top 10%. That's pretty much a NY6 bowl in football.
