All Big 12 Awards
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Confrence Games Only:
Player...............Games....Yards.........Att.......TD..............Ave
Mont ISU...........7............796............158.......9.............5.04
Barn KSU...........9...........1127...........205......11...........5.50
Hill OkSt............7............650............124.......5............5.24
Pooka KU............9............837...........128.......4.............6.54
Player...............Games....Yards.........Att.......TD..............Ave
Mont ISU...........7............796............158.......9.............5.04
Barn KSU...........9...........1127...........205......11...........5.50
Hill OkSt............7............650............124.......5............5.24
Pooka KU............9............837...........128.......4.............6.54
Probably happened because OU and TCU didn't see Purdy play live and he looked pretty rattled in the Texas game.
Pooka did have the best YPC while playing on the worst (by far) team in the conference. Kind of reminds me of what Troy Davis did while playing for ISU.
First team vs second team is always going to be debated. Votes get split among the coaches and strange results sometimes happen.
I think we should be looking at it differently. We had 8 out of our possible 24 starters on first and second team. That is one third of our starters making all conference in a conference loaded with talent. I doubt that has happened before at Iowa State.
I think we should be looking at it differently. We had 8 out of our possible 24 starters on first and second team. That is one third of our starters making all conference in a conference loaded with talent. I doubt that has happened before at Iowa State.
All conference first and second team by school...
Oklahoma - 11
Iowa State - 8
West Virginia - 8
Texas - 7
TCU - 6
Kansas - 6 (4 plus Pooka x 2)
Oklahoma State - 5
Texas Tech - 5
Kansas State - 3
Baylor - 3
Oklahoma - 11
Iowa State - 8
West Virginia - 8
Texas - 7
TCU - 6
Kansas - 6 (4 plus Pooka x 2)
Oklahoma State - 5
Texas Tech - 5
Kansas State - 3
Baylor - 3
This is a good take on it and feels better. For those upset about 1st vs 2nd team (I agree its BS in a few spots) I think something can be said for "perception vs. reality" The old perception of ISU still exists. The recent players and CMC are changing that perception daily, but lets be real, two very good years will not overcome 30 years of history. Seeing the perception change, slowly, is probably what I enjoy the most.
Good breakdown. Montgomery and Barnes were so far ahead of the other two.
I thought Barnes had the more impressive season but i wouldn't trade ours for anyone in the league.
I remember one year bad Baylor's only all conference player was their punter.
He was damned good though.
Only compared to a guy averaging 4 yards more per touch, not compared to the rest of the country.
Good thing you said “almost”. Do you really think he likes telling recruits, “Come to ISU, where you probably won’t be first team all conference no matter how darn good you are!”
Guess we’d better just kick tail and wrap up all the first team spots next year!
*as far as Eisworth—that’s some really good company in the secondary!
When I looked at the PFF All-America list, I saw 5 Big 12 first teamers: OU's Murray and Brown, KSU's Risner, and ISU's Montgomery and Peavy. Three of those were selected by coaches as All-Big 12 first team; two were not. You all know who the two are who were not!!
Coach voting for All-Big 12 teams probably has its cynical side, as: I will vote for player X on team Y who is good but not deserving of the highest level in hopes my player then gets elevated to 1st team over a deserving player.
