Interesting, I thought around the time I learned to type proficiently without looking (2007ish) it was a skill that was already highly valued, if not necessary. Guess the trend hasn't picked up as fast as some of the tech advances that involve a keyboard.
Friday OT #2 - We Don't Need No Education
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Interesting, I thought around the time I learned to type proficiently without looking (2007ish) it was a skill that was already highly valued, if not necessary. Guess the trend hasn't picked up as fast as some of the tech advances that involve a keyboard.
No fault on anyone's part but mine;
Left high school having taken typing (on a typewriter). Spent four years in the military not touching a computer (no computers in my rifle platoon). Showed up to Ames not knowing how to start, stop, save, print, let alone draft/design on a ****ing computer. That first semester was stressful...
Left high school having taken typing (on a typewriter). Spent four years in the military not touching a computer (no computers in my rifle platoon). Showed up to Ames not knowing how to start, stop, save, print, let alone draft/design on a ****ing computer. That first semester was stressful...
You made references to Franz Ferdinand and Tesla in the same day. You should get some kind of Cyclone Fanatic Bonus.
Wow, how hard is it to write a simple report? I wonder how he's doing in life
I'm pretty bad at typing. They made us take a type course in middle school but as long as you could type 30 words per minute with 1 error you could pass, which is pretty easy.
To be fair, other people made the references first. I am the first one that made the incorrect references to both.
CycloneErik
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I didn't own a computer until my final undergrad semester.
Did everything on a word processing typewriter.
Some missing elements I can remember are examples of education methods that didn't transfer well into "recent times," or were specific useful skills that have become obsolete.
Penmanship and cursive writing have been mentioned, but in fairness, nobody at the time could've guessed writing "longhand" would become a secondary written-communication tactic.
Thing is, I kicked *** at "writing," both printing and cursive. I followed the rules, learned as instructed and got excellent grades. Today, my only use of cursive is my signature, and I was never taught how to do it effectively in a 3-by-5-centimeter box to verify my identity when I make a purchase with a credit card.
Public school failed me.
Penmanship and cursive writing have been mentioned, but in fairness, nobody at the time could've guessed writing "longhand" would become a secondary written-communication tactic.
Thing is, I kicked *** at "writing," both printing and cursive. I followed the rules, learned as instructed and got excellent grades. Today, my only use of cursive is my signature, and I was never taught how to do it effectively in a 3-by-5-centimeter box to verify my identity when I make a purchase with a credit card.
Public school failed me.
I think even just good study skills were not taught very well to me prior to college.
I noticed my freshman year how my floor mates seemed to be so much more focused in learned strategies for group or individual studies.
Otherwise I had plenty of teachers and professors that didn't create much of a learning culture outside of lecturing and testing without true application.
Things that I wish were focus points for more real life stuff: finances, taxes, employment, nutrition/diet/exercise.
I noticed my freshman year how my floor mates seemed to be so much more focused in learned strategies for group or individual studies.
Otherwise I had plenty of teachers and professors that didn't create much of a learning culture outside of lecturing and testing without true application.
Things that I wish were focus points for more real life stuff: finances, taxes, employment, nutrition/diet/exercise.
At least you never had your hard drive crash 3 weeks before then of the Semester as a student taking ed and curriculum instruction classes. Holy **** the amount of papers I had to rewrite. Some were on partially on stick drives. I purchased an external after that which was more than cheap. Cloud was something I thought was in the sky when that happened.
CycloneErik
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True.
I did have my dissertation backup system collapse once already.
I had 3 layers of backups, and 2 just suddenly vanished. I guess my laptop's drive and one of my cloud drives felt it would be fun to delete random files.
So now the system goes 10 layers deep, including various paper copies that are never in the same building, just in case. My adviser keeps a copy, too, I believe.
I legit thought about just taking an L for the semester. Thank God for Moms, Advisors, and cheap 30 packs. I powered through and kept around my 3.0, but my Heavens the 48 hours after that happened were like I was walking through a bad dream.
CycloneErik
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One of my profs tells me about a colleague of hers from her dissertation days. He was from India, and raised a slew of funds to get back to India to do research.
As a poor grad student, the place he had available to store his sources was his cubicle in their T.A. office. He had massive stacks of paper, some on the floor. One night, a janitor saw the pile and threw it all out.
Guy never could finish his PhD, because he couldn't get the funds to go do all that again.
CycloneErik
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I'd probably confess like Samuel L. Jackson in "A Time to Kill."
Well, no probably about it.
I actually suggested the thread title to Angie when I contacted her with the idea. I was a Junior or Senior at ISU when The Wall came out. Roommate had it and played it a lot. Also that song was pretty heavy rotation even on top 40 radio at the time. "How can you have any pudding when you don't eat your meat?" Along with the we don't need no education line - Those are the only two lines I remember on the whole album almost 40 years later.
Fear not. All is good again:
https://www.popsci.com/scientists-decide-its-time-bring-back-brontosaurus
Due to a last minute teacher defection I had an English teacher teaching 8th grade math...I'm not sure she could add four 3 digit numbers together without a calculator. Needless to say it sat us all back.
As for checkbooks comment. It's THE BIGGEST failure of all levels of schools...not teaching finance to ALL students. Balancing checkbooks, simple interest, mortgages, car loans....
EVERY SINGLE PERSON WILL DEAL WITH MONEY IN THEIR LIVES.
We require sociology, psychology, library 101, and countless other crap I've never used after school. Why are we NOT requiring fiance classes????
All the talk of needing to teach some kind of basic personal finance reminded me of a story.
About 8-10 years ago I worked at a bank. A young man, early 20's, comes in and opens his first checking account, gets a checkbook and a debit card. He had a job, so had a decent amount of money to deposit, maybe $800 or so.
A few days later he comes back in, he had several overdrafts. He told the banker that he didn't understand how that happened. The banker explained he made several withdraws from the ATM and several purchases, far more than the $800 ish dollars he had deposited.
The young man then was shocked to find out that when you use a debit card, the money comes out of your account right away! He genuinely thought the bank just kept something like a "tab" for you and you paid the bank back whenever it was convenient (kinda like a credit card).
About 8-10 years ago I worked at a bank. A young man, early 20's, comes in and opens his first checking account, gets a checkbook and a debit card. He had a job, so had a decent amount of money to deposit, maybe $800 or so.
A few days later he comes back in, he had several overdrafts. He told the banker that he didn't understand how that happened. The banker explained he made several withdraws from the ATM and several purchases, far more than the $800 ish dollars he had deposited.
The young man then was shocked to find out that when you use a debit card, the money comes out of your account right away! He genuinely thought the bank just kept something like a "tab" for you and you paid the bank back whenever it was convenient (kinda like a credit card).
