*** Official Tulsa Vs IOWA STATE Gameday Thread ***
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I don’t much value what Williams says, but I get what you’re saying. His delivery is solid.
Yeah, that is fair. He wasn't doing it to Fans, and I would not be applauding/respecting it if he had done that. But I have nothing wrong with him getting a couple blocks and letting the other team hear about it. If it is constant and he is getting punked himself, then it looks foolish. But seeing that from a player this season, IMO, brought a bit of fire to our team and I loved it. I guess we'll have to keep an eye on it going forward, but for now I don't see it as any problem, in fact i see it as the opposite currently. Wanna see another Double-Double with a handful of blocks again tonight!
If he gets double-doubles, he can jaw all he wants as far as I'm concerned as long it doesn't get him a T. I do prefer players that let their playing do the talking, but some guys get themselves going by doing that too.
Yeah, and Young hasn't gotten off to a great start in part because he's not a ball handler. He needs good, timely feeds to get his, although I would like to see him going to the boards more aggressively so that he could get some put backs.
Tally has a nice midrange game and plays good d the problem is that with 2 guards and 2 bigs plus tally that puts tally at the wing and in the corner and eliminates that corner 3 pt threat that we are so used to seeing. Beverly can hit that shot but playing Beverly over Tally makes the defense worse and rebounding worse..If Tally could actually hit 30% from 3 this team would look a whole lot different IMO.
This is where I hope to see T Lewis progress throughout the year..T Lewis can shoot and run..If he can become a somewhat ok defensive player then he may start playing 15+ min a game at that wing slot.
It just becomes easier to defend a team that only has 1-2 players on the floor that will even put up 3’s..
This is where I hope to see T Lewis progress throughout the year..T Lewis can shoot and run..If he can become a somewhat ok defensive player then he may start playing 15+ min a game at that wing slot.
It just becomes easier to defend a team that only has 1-2 players on the floor that will even put up 3’s..
Bro. The discussion is about radio personalities. Stay on topic.
Talley has been attempting 3's from the corner but not hitting them. It has only been 3 games so I won't say he can't but his shot hasn't looked totally natural yet. Prohm had mentioned before the season he gave both him and Beverly the green light to shoot from there. I would guess if one becomes a threat from outside and they'll both get the opportunity to prove it.
X-Factor could be Brase. He has shown at Princeton the ability to shoot from range. It would lessen the need for either to shot 3's during his minutes.
Something else to look for in the non-con. I know SY has been looking to expand his game from outside too though I haven't seen enough good results to trust that in meaningful minutes yet.
A lot of points were given up in the last couple minutes of the game when it was all but decided. Winning this tournament should have been a given... but now winning it will give this team much needed confidence IMO.
Talley was 4-24 from 3 before coming to ISU, not sure why Prohm gave him that freedom. He's looked really bad shooting them, not just because he's missing them but he just doesn't look comfortable shooting them. He's looked good from mid range and driving, I'd like to see him stick to those.
Pretty much this. I don’t find him annoying or anything, just not that knowledgeable.
Prohm's philosophy is to have his 3 and 4 shoot the 3 as part of his offense. I know that Talley hasn't demonstrated that in his career yet and I am a little dubious that he'll all of a sudden become a 35% 3-pt shooter. I don't see Prohm telling any of his player not to shoot outside especially in the non-con.
No matter what, Talley has looked like he'll contribute this year and next how much of an impact could be determined if he can develop shooting range.
Lewis could factor here too later in the year as he develops a comfort level as he should be a good 3 pt shooter and could thrive in that role too.
I'm wondering if Prohm saw something in his shot that they have been fixing in practice but under pressure in a game situation he reverts to his old form. The only way to get it fixed for good is to continue to work on it in practice and continue to encourage him to shoot it in game situations until he can execute under pressure. If that is the case, I would rather they work it out in the preseason than try to fix it during the conference season.
Good point. And not all of the players have to shoot 35% from outside. Even a 30% 3 point shooter demands attention on the perimeter and helps open up the middle. 30% from 3 is equivalent points per attempt as shooting 45% from 2. Not stellar, but enough to keep the D honest.
CycloneErik
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I'm not watching but I'll wager the threes they are jacking from 25 feet aren't mostly falling today.
CycloneErik
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More traditional pace of play today.
Kind of the constant challenge watching other games after a Cyclone game the last few years.
IIRC Hoiball was calculated, but was also built in the premise that anyone could score from anywhere, even if they weren't necessarily great at it.
Hogue shot 34% from 3 his first year, then jumped to 43% his senior year, but watching him shoot you wouldn't think he'd be a viable threat.
