I'd go with this and swap LB and TE. Coach seems pretty happy with the LBs. I think TEs will still be situational with Allen being a RS threat.
I think our special teams on the whole will be pretty solid, too.
Curious how you guys rank your units ...
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I'd go with this and swap LB and TE. Coach seems pretty happy with the LBs. I think TEs will still be situational with Allen being a RS threat.
I think our special teams on the whole will be pretty solid, too.
Not showing much right now, but expect plenty of growth when it's time to rise to the occasion.
Like a side view mirror - objects MAY appear smaller.
WR: A- Only weaknesses are not having one guy that's a great combo of size and speed, and they sometimes struggle against physical press coverage at the LOS.
QB: B+. I'm on the Park hype train.
RB: B- Montgomery is a good tough all around back. Hopefully Warren has improved ball security and his practice issues. Seems like it, but we will see.
OL: C+. The fact this unit was serviceable last year has me more excited about our coaches than anything else. Should see a nice jump from last year.
TE: C- Non factor in the passing game last year. Allen is reason for excitement, but I worry about him holding his own in the run game. Having a TE solid at both makes a huge impact on offense.
DB: B. KCM is a monster and this unit can cover.
DL: C- much of this is based on probably unrealistic optimism for newcomers, but the talent is there.
LB: D+. I think this group will be improved but still will struggle. Lanning provides a big boost in athleticism, but Its likely there will be some growing pains.
QB: B+. I'm on the Park hype train.
RB: B- Montgomery is a good tough all around back. Hopefully Warren has improved ball security and his practice issues. Seems like it, but we will see.
OL: C+. The fact this unit was serviceable last year has me more excited about our coaches than anything else. Should see a nice jump from last year.
TE: C- Non factor in the passing game last year. Allen is reason for excitement, but I worry about him holding his own in the run game. Having a TE solid at both makes a huge impact on offense.
DB: B. KCM is a monster and this unit can cover.
DL: C- much of this is based on probably unrealistic optimism for newcomers, but the talent is there.
LB: D+. I think this group will be improved but still will struggle. Lanning provides a big boost in athleticism, but Its likely there will be some growing pains.
So, ISU will see a lot of the other guys' run game. Is the base defense 4-3; 4-2 or 3-4?
If you're seeing a guys' runs, you're doing it wrong.
QB- B- - Until Park proves it, he's just above average in my book. Noland has promise, and we all know that Lanning can be affective.
RB- A- - This year has real potential to be a double 1k yard runner for us, of course the line plays a big part in that. Even Croney is getting tons of praise from the coaches.
WR- A - I would have given them an A+ but that may be too much cool-aid. Size, speed, hands, experience, watch out Big 12
TE- C - Have big bodies, now we just need to develop them.
OL- C+ - Showed great improvement last year with players that may have never seen the field under Rhoads. Campos, Good-Jones, Meeker, all look to be good players. Garcia getting good praise from his peers after the switch. I think this unit will be a B rating as the year goes on.
DE- B - Bailey looks to be a potential draft pick after his time here. Leo is a monster, Uwazurike is a monster, both weighing over 270 and have the frame to hold the weight. Waggoner is a solid player, and Lensing has been rumored to be right on everyones heels.
DL- C - Unproven but lots of talent in the younger guys. Lima is rumored to be the real deal. Whar Tongamoa?
LB- C+ - Another unit I think will be improved into the B catergory as the year goes on. Returning people with lots of snaps. Spears could develop fast once he sees the field.
CB - A - Got lots of studs coming back and depth behind them. Peavy and Payne are game changers, and will be all over the Big 12's best this year.
FS- B- - Transfer coming is said to be coming along well, has experience in the SEC, May not be much depth behind.
SS- A- - Kamari Cotton-Moya is the man, hopefully he can stay healthy the full season.
Weighted Grades:
Based on 100 being an A+; 85 a B, 79 a C+ etc,
Offense 84 out of 100
Defense 83 out of 100
The defensive composite number surpised me a bit, so I may be drinking the cool-aid too much but I am optimistic about this season. I see the offense growing more than I see the defense growing, so as the year goes on I see the offense gravitating towards a B+ rating, and the defense may have somewhat of a ceiling where it is at due to past performance on the D-line and over all unproven youth and players on the interior.
Last but not least:
Fan base. We all know we get 100 out of 100!
Go Cyclones. Hope that helps you some Surly.
RB- A- - This year has real potential to be a double 1k yard runner for us, of course the line plays a big part in that. Even Croney is getting tons of praise from the coaches.
WR- A - I would have given them an A+ but that may be too much cool-aid. Size, speed, hands, experience, watch out Big 12
TE- C - Have big bodies, now we just need to develop them.
OL- C+ - Showed great improvement last year with players that may have never seen the field under Rhoads. Campos, Good-Jones, Meeker, all look to be good players. Garcia getting good praise from his peers after the switch. I think this unit will be a B rating as the year goes on.
DE- B - Bailey looks to be a potential draft pick after his time here. Leo is a monster, Uwazurike is a monster, both weighing over 270 and have the frame to hold the weight. Waggoner is a solid player, and Lensing has been rumored to be right on everyones heels.
DL- C - Unproven but lots of talent in the younger guys. Lima is rumored to be the real deal. Whar Tongamoa?
LB- C+ - Another unit I think will be improved into the B catergory as the year goes on. Returning people with lots of snaps. Spears could develop fast once he sees the field.
CB - A - Got lots of studs coming back and depth behind them. Peavy and Payne are game changers, and will be all over the Big 12's best this year.
FS- B- - Transfer coming is said to be coming along well, has experience in the SEC, May not be much depth behind.
SS- A- - Kamari Cotton-Moya is the man, hopefully he can stay healthy the full season.
Weighted Grades:
Based on 100 being an A+; 85 a B, 79 a C+ etc,
Offense 84 out of 100
Defense 83 out of 100
The defensive composite number surpised me a bit, so I may be drinking the cool-aid too much but I am optimistic about this season. I see the offense growing more than I see the defense growing, so as the year goes on I see the offense gravitating towards a B+ rating, and the defense may have somewhat of a ceiling where it is at due to past performance on the D-line and over all unproven youth and players on the interior.
Last but not least:
Fan base. We all know we get 100 out of 100!
Go Cyclones. Hope that helps you some Surly.
It's fun to read this introspective stuff. I'm just never sure what fans use as their standard when grading units as you did.
For example, DL with a C. Does that mean that half the conference DL's are better and half worse than ISU? Or is that some arbitrary grade based on some ISU metric?
That's why I suggested ranking the units within the team rather than comparing to the league or some other standard because we probably don't know much about the other guys.
C would be average across the country. I'm not as doom and gloom as most about our team as some on here are. I'm not an older fan, but I am the Millenials big brother. I have seen some CRAPPY Iowa State football in my days. We are miles ahead of that era IMO.
Thanks... I think?
I don't consider myself a Millenial but I guess it depends on who you ask. I can remember a time when almost no one had personal computers, and we played outside all the time.
I think we will underperform in cold weather.
