Like I mentioned in post #30, the question was who had the "bigger" fall from greatness not the "worst". Its not about what you did to fall from greatness, but how far you fell.
Obviously, a DUI and cheating on your spouse are no big deal compared to murder and rape. But the distance Tiger fell ranks right up there at the top.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I still just don't see Tiger as fallen yet.
Driving drunk is a terrible thing to do, but just getting a DUI doesn't put Tiger on the level of those guys. Matt Thomas got a DUI for christsakes.
Plus, Tiger was better than all of those guys at his sport.
Driving drunk is a terrible thing to do, but just getting a DUI doesn't put Tiger on the level of those guys. Matt Thomas got a DUI for christsakes.
Plus, Tiger was better than all of those guys at his sport.
Would be a good debate vs Lance Armstrong, OJ, Joe Paterno, and Oscar Pistorius.
Driving drunk is a terrible thing to do, but just getting a DUI doesn't put Tiger on the level of those guys. Matt Thomas got a DUI for christsakes.
Plus, Tiger was better than all of those guys at his sport.
You could argue that Tiger was better at his sport than OJ and I would probably buy it, although OJ was 5x all-pro, a league MVP and Hall of Famer. Lance was, until caught his sports GOAT. Tiger was close, but he was always chasing Jack, Lance wasn't chasing anyone in his sport.
Also, is golf really a sport? I mean, some guys on the Tour smoke during their rounds, I guess you could technically smoke during any sport though.
You could argue that Tiger was better at his sport than OJ and I would probably buy it, although OJ was 5x all-pro, a league MVP and Hall of Famer. Lance was, until caught his sports GOAT. Tiger was close, but he was always chasing Jack, Lance wasn't chasing anyone in his sport.
Also, is golf really a sport? I mean, some guys on the Tour smoke during their rounds, I guess you could technically smoke during any sport though.
Driving drunk is a terrible thing to do, but just getting a DUI doesn't put Tiger on the level of those guys. Matt Thomas got a DUI for christsakes.
Plus, Tiger was better than all of those guys at his sport.
Tiger fell from grace long before this. Had to do with getting involved with various pieces of white trash employed at places like Perkins, night clubs, and the like. Under ordinary circumstances, while I might give a WTF glance, I'd say "you do you", except the dude cheated on his wife and kids and that makes him a grade A scumbag. There's a reason Derek Jeter stayed single during his playing days: on a road trip he could get it on with whomever he wanted with zero repercussions. Now that he's retired, he's doing the family thing. Instead, Tiger decided to portray himself as the "family man" while banging the trash of society. What's worse is the revelation of this chain of events coincided with his career going in the shitter - he has been garbage on the golf course ever since.
Granted, cheating on your family with white trash isn't on the same level as murdering people, but I'm just saying that's when Tiger fell from grace.
Tiger fell from grace long before this. Had to do with getting involved with various pieces of white trash employed at places like Perkins, night clubs, and the like. Under ordinary circumstances, while I might give a WTF glance, I'd say "you do you", except the dude cheated on his wife and kids and that makes him a grade A scumbag. There's a reason Derek Jeter stayed single during his playing days: on a road trip he could get it on with whomever he wanted with zero repercussions. Now that he's retired, he's doing the family thing. Instead, Tiger decided to portray himself as the "family man" while banging the trash of society. What's worse is the revelation of this chain of events coincided with his career going in the shitter - he has been garbage on the golf course ever since.
Granted, cheating on your family with white trash isn't on the same level as murdering people, but I'm just saying that's when Tiger fell from grace.
There are also some rumors about a Balco connection and the effects that may have had on his body's inexplicable collapse in a sport where many play into their 60's and beyond.
Was it really? Could be a lot of things, but Ambien wouldn't surprise me at all. IMO, that is a drug that shouldn't be made available.
And many also have huge back issues and burn out in their 20s. Tiger could have been juicing, I don't know, but if he was, he wasn't working out and lifting as much as everyone around him has always said. The guy wasn't very big at all and his transformation was hardly something incomprehensible considering his regimen. I just don't buy the Balco deal. I buy that his golf swing has always been fairly violent and he did really stupid things like 4 mile runs with combat boots, kill house exercises, and powerlifting that wasn't necessary which is what triggered the last back issue.
Everything that Galea and the BALCO circle has said about baseball has turned out to be true, why wouldn't what they say about Tiger be true?
I think I have these news releases correct:
Have charges been filed, and what are the charges? Tiger's statement says he realizes the severity of his actions and will <sic> 'do everything in his power to assure it never happens again'.....what does that mean - that he won't take pain meds and drive again? I have to believe it was medication; if indeed it was something like Oxy, or other pain meds. I would hope he's smart enough to at least avoid mixing booze with those drug combos.
- the arresting officer detected the smell of alcohol.
- Tiger refused a field sobriety test.
- unconfirmed if another person was in the car.
- no arrest report has been released to news media / public.
- tiger was released, without posting bond, on his 'own recognizance' .
He's won zero majors since driving into that tree.The guy was the best player in the world 4 years after the cheating scandal broke so you're wrong. It sure didn't help him but his back is why he hasn't been good at golf for 4 years.
I don't know if it's true for Ambien but I was told that if you drive after tak
Rosaforte, who lives in the area confirmed the stuff in Tiger's release by way of his own sources. I don't know what that exactly means, technically, but he also said some other reports that had come out were wrong. A report will be released tomorrow when the record people are back to work.