This is obvious with the speed at which you reply to my comments.
SE consulting is a great gig although theres a lot of pressure.
also, you forgot Northern Iowa.
You're a giant doosh.
This is obvious with the speed at which you reply to my comments.
SE consulting is a great gig although theres a lot of pressure.
also, you forgot Northern Iowa.
A) they don't move around all the time
B) people do pitch a fit about it
Ask anyone who works in academia...
Some things money just cannot buy in this world.
That's what is irking me as well.
Bothers me most is that Fred is like about every other coach we've had, and used ISU as a stepping stone. All this talk about the love for Ames and ISU comes off as little more than PR banter now. In the end, all it is is a guy with no experience getting a shot at pretty much the only place that would give him one , had decent success and cashed his chips in and moved on down the road.
I think what actually bothers me most is that I felt with Fred, we may actually have a shot at another Johnny-type legacy at ISU. Or coach K or Izzo - longevity. If we can't get Fred to stay for more than a 5 year tour and not jump to greener pastures.... who will?
Johnny was 53 when he took the ISU job, and was 57-58 before we first got any post-season play. Fred was only 38-39 when he got us back into the NCAAs. And the longest of the longevity coaches, Coach K, Izzo and Bob Knight, all started very young (younger than Fred) and had a combined 0 years of NBA experience. Compare that to most of the great NBA coaches, who were almost all NBA players for several years before getting into coaching. And remember why Johnny came here in the first place - $$$$. He heard what we were going to pay one of his assistants and decided he'd rather make that salary because he wasn't getting it at Michigan, even though he'd been very successful there.
Hell, it seems like you could argue that Fred WAS like Johnny, except that now we're playing Michigan's role and the Bulls are playing ours...
Disappointed about how this whole thing has hurt recruiting the past few years. If Fred would have been committed to ISU CD may be on his way to campus. We may be set next year but after that the cupboard is bare.
This will sound really weird but I feel really bad for Fred. I was sitting there last night thinking about Izzo and K and that Fred is missing out on a Coach K legacy. Statues, buildings named Hoiberg...god status...Bear Bryant status.
Legacy is what it's about, not challenge, not money...
That always bothered me the most with Sanderson, because we were willing to pay him, and our history of success was better than Penn St. It still makes me mad.
What bothers me the most is the way we heard about all of this and how long it took. I am not sure how I could have expected different in this day and age. I knew Fred was going to go the NBA at some point, I guess I just expected it to be a cleaner and more transparent break instead of this cloak and dagger method he has put us through. I am starting to think this was starting to go down last season and may be one of the reasons our players were quitting on him.
Do the professors (especially if alums) come in with zero experience, tell their school and studients that they have their dream job, dream location being by family and wanting to raise them in that environment, and list goals they want to accomplish following by bolting soon afterwards?
What bothers me most is something that Fred said a few years back about a piece of advice he received from another coach (I forget whom) - "Don't mess with happy."
I totally get that coaching in the NBA is his dream, and after two heart surgeries in as many years his outlook on life has probably changed, maybe perhaps this is his last shot at coaching in the NBA if that's what doctors are advising him. I just can't help but think that he's messed with happy. The Bulls are an overrated team Thibodeau milked everything from (with great resentment) because they're not that great of a team, and the front office is notorious to chewing up and spitting out coaches that don't get it done, a lot of times in unrealistic time frames. Not to mention this is a fan base that is still 100% blinded by Jordan's shadow, ironically someone that wants to have nothing to do with the Bulls because of the ownership group.
Like I said, he has always wanted to coach in the NBA, and the Bulls are probably his dream team, but I can't help but think this whole thing is just a gigantic piece of cheese sitting on top of a mousetrap just waiting to kill or maim his coaching career.
I have no hard feelings toward the Mayor and trust that this move is what is best for his career and his family and I just became a huge Chicago Bulls fan...
But having grown up die-hard Iowa State fan I am struggling to get over that Fred was ok with leaving with his last game as a head coach for ISU being a loss to 14-seed UAB. Does this really bother anyone else? I feel like being such an intense competitor that he is, that loss would really motivate him to come back and finish the job he started and reach a final four/NC. I understand that at this point the timing is right for him but I wonder if that will bother him as well or if it was in his thought process a little bit.
What bothers me most - is I had a dog named Hoiberg! I had to go buy him a new collar and officially change his name to Baxter.
Baxter? Our new coach is named Baxter???