The Dan McCarney Method

[bos]

100 Reasons To Be A Cyclone: Day 66 | ISU Football

This inspired me to bring up some conversation about Dan. I loved Dan. He represented us well and I will always be thankful for that. However, its summer downtime and we all know what that means... gripes and what could have beens.

After watching the 2000 highlights that was previously posted, I got really nostalgic about some great times we had, but it also brought in some let downs. The last few years Dan was here were some awful years. Did he lose the spark? Or was he just too comfortable to notice the crap going on. Why was he so loyal to a playbook, support staff, and culture that cost him wins?

We had some standout players on teams that underperformed. How far did that put us behind in the minds of recruits? I give PR and staff a ton of credit for building excitement and morale. Even more so on players that would have experienced the downward spiralling end of DM and the heartless showing of GC.

 

[Al_4_State]

Great program builder, awful game day coach.

 

[cloneswereall]

Great program builder, awful game day coach.

I dunno. It seems like all the great ones have that golf clap thing they do when things are going to hell in a handbasket. Dan had that **** down pat.

 

[CRAZYGREG]

1st down: Run up the middle (0 yards)
2nd down: run up the middle (1 yard)
3rd down: try a pass - crap they where expecting it
4th down: Punt

I sat through every single year of his crap.

 

[azn4cy]

1st down: Run up the middle (0 yards)
2nd down: run up the middle (1 yard)
3rd down: try a pass - crap they where expecting it
4th down: Punt

I sat through every single year of his crap.

You have 2nd and 3rd down mixed up.

 

[rebecacy]

100 Reasons To Be A Cyclone: Day 66 | ISU Football

This inspired me to bring up some conversation about Dan. I loved Dan. He represented us well and I will always be thankful for that. However, its summer downtime and we all know what that means... gripes and what could have beens.

After watching the 2000 highlights that was previously posted, I got really nostalgic about some great times we had, but it also brought in some let downs. The last few years Dan was here were some awful years. Did he lose the spark? Or was he just too comfortable to notice the crap going on. Why was he so loyal to a playbook, support staff, and culture that cost him wins?

We had some standout players on teams that underperformed. How far did that put us behind in the minds of recruits? I give PR and staff a ton of credit for building excitement and morale. Even more so on players that would have experienced the downward spiralling end of DM and the heartless showing of GC.

You'd have more luck with this at other sites where most still worship at the DMac altar.

 

[weR138]

You have 2nd and 3rd down mixed up.

I'm not going to bash Dan but I will say that he lost his job in '05 due to his game day coaching. That team absolutely should've walked into the B12 Championship Game.

I wish him the best at NT.

 

[rebecacy]

I'm not going to bash Dan but I will say that he lost his job in '05 due to his game day coaching. That team absolutely should've walked into the B12 Championship Game.

I wish him the best at NT.

I know some leaders on that team that agree wholeheartedly with you. He was also a master at ******* up team chemistry by having different rules for different players based upon how good he thought you were.

 

[Al_4_State]

I'm not going to bash Dan but I will say that he lost his job in '05 due to his game day coaching. That team absolutely should've walked into the B12 Championship Game undefeated.

I wish him the best at NT.

FIFY

 

[weR138]

FIFY

Please. Please don't go there. :sad:

 

[WalkingCY]

I'm not going to bash Dan but I will say that he lost his job in '05 due to his game day coaching. That team absolutely should've walked into the B12 Championship Game.

I wish him the best at NT.

agree here.

 

[Tornado man]

Do the McCarney haters ever take a day off?

 

[weR138]

Do the McCarney haters ever take a day off?

Could you describe the haters, sir?

I know I don't take a day off; good times/bad times, I'll talk ISU athletics.

 

[Al_4_State]

Do the McCarney haters ever take a day off?

I think the Big 12 is dissolving. You may want to check on that.

 

[IcSyU]

Do the McCarney haters ever take a day off?

He did some great things. He did some atrocious things. 2005? Baylor game comes to mind.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Do the McCarney haters ever take a day off?

Nope. We are obsessed. Look at all the threads.

We aren't "haters" either. We actually have an argument. He messed up multiple times with teams that should have been much better than they played. It's what happened. That's not being a hater, that's being realistic.

 

[heitclone]

Do the McCarney haters ever take a day off?

I haven't seen any "haters in this thread" everything said so far seems pretty accurate. This program owes a lot to Dan but that doesnt mean it was sunshie and roses.

 

[CykoAGR]

This is how I see things through my own eyes.

The ISU FB program may not have become what it is today without DMac. He took a program that was HORRIBLE to heights that it had never been to before. He built the foundation that CPR is working with today. I dont know that stats and I'm not going to look them up but if you do you will see a dramatic increase in the level of talent before DMac vs during DMac judged by players in the NFL. The 5 bowl games in 6 years put ISU FB "on the map", or at least made us somewhat relevant again which is why I feel he established the foundation that I mentioned earlier.

On the other hand it seemed that DMac found a way to lose some big ones. His failed attempts at North Titles will always be a knock as well as his super conservative nature when his team had a lead or when we were down and needed a big play.

His success really led to his demise because once ISU fans got a taste of winning footbal mediocre play wasnt enough anymore and fans werent content with 7 wins.

I'm glad that DMac was a Cyclone and I am forever grateful for the kick in the *** that he gave the program but I was one that was calling for his job after the 06 season. It seemed that he had "peaked" and the program needed a new start.

 

[jbhtexas]

I dont know that stats and I'm not going to look them up but if you do you will see a dramatic increase in the level of talent before DMac vs during DMac judged by players in the NFL.

Isn't the bottom line wins and losses?

As I posted in the link below, McCarney and Walden had very similar records at ISU. If McCarney was getting better talent but still losing, isn't that an indictment of his coaching abilities?

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum...h-dmac-rivals-com-homepage-3.html#post2294313

 

[Al_4_State]

Regarding Walden v. McCarney, yeah, Walden had a winning season that didn't get a bowl, but it was only one winning season. Danny Mac had 5 winning seasons.