Iowa fans seem to fear losing more than most fanbases. It seems some Iowa fans would almost rather play in the MAC if they could win every game. The real reason they want to drop the series is because they hate that the "only team in the state" has lost to Iowa State seven out of the last twelve.
Keeler on How the Rivalry Game Got Renewed
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WTF are you talking about? Try reading the article as it is about football and not basketball and Iowa/ISU have played basketball every year since 1970. Does ISU hang banners in Hilton for football and if they do the only banner in there would be for the 1972 Liberty Bowl as there wouldn't be any Big 8 Champions banners because the next bowl game banner that would have been up would be the year they resumed this series so that bowl game wouldn't have taken place yet.
Not sure Iowa "fears losing"...
more than any other fanbase. Where do you get the idea that we would rather play in the MAC? Hawk fans love the Big 10 and the opportunities it affords us. Our conference affiliation is a huge reason the Iowa program is where it is today.
I'm on record that the series should continue, but I fear it won't with both Iowa and ISU going to 9-game conference schedules.
more than any other fanbase. Where do you get the idea that we would rather play in the MAC? Hawk fans love the Big 10 and the opportunities it affords us. Our conference affiliation is a huge reason the Iowa program is where it is today.
I'm on record that the series should continue, but I fear it won't with both Iowa and ISU going to 9-game conference schedules.
At the end of the day, it just feels so GOOD to hate on Keeler!
My issue is that the content is so lacking on the Rag that it seems that those guys hang around for one online chat, maybe a 3 sentence blog, maybe a diet coke and then go home to roll around in their free money, giggling and whatnot.
My issue is that the content is so lacking on the Rag that it seems that those guys hang around for one online chat, maybe a 3 sentence blog, maybe a diet coke and then go home to roll around in their free money, giggling and whatnot.
Please note: I didn't say anything about us being better (we were for a while there in the 70s. But that's about it)
I don't know that fear fits, but there are teams out there who like or expect to lose? God I hope neither Iowa or isu ever get to that point.
Careful with the MAC stuff. There were clone fans who called in to the local talk shows and suggested that isu might be better off doing exactly what you said above. A Hawk fan would never think, let alone say on the air, anything even close to that.
Where is this?
Kinda doubting that was actually a Clone fan. And if it was - I'm guessing it was same warped angle about the conference reallignment with the intent of getting out from Texas's grip.
I'd never advocate going to a non-bcs. But if the Big 10 ever were to open.. hell yes I want out of the Big XII.
If Iowa and ISU had played every year in the 70's, the percentage of Hak and Clone fans amongst this state's population could very well be reversed. It was a very good move for Iowa not to play ISU.
Sorry Daddy, I cannot give you any proof on a call in show that I listened to on the way home from work.
I suppose it could have been some DB Hawk fan doing it...but since it was more then one caller over the course of time where it looked like the Big 12 could fold I have to think some felt that way (I'd say 4-5 maybe?). Not painting clones with a broad brush but there were a select few. Just a little counter point to the Hawk/MAC post...which obviously no Big Ten team would ever leave based on how the conference is set up.
I like your honesty about jumping to the Big 10...it will be interesting to see what kind of a response your brother clone fans have to that.
I suppose it could have been some DB Hawk fan doing it...but since it was more then one caller over the course of time where it looked like the Big 12 could fold I have to think some felt that way (I'd say 4-5 maybe?). Not painting clones with a broad brush but there were a select few. Just a little counter point to the Hawk/MAC post...which obviously no Big Ten team would ever leave based on how the conference is set up.
I like your honesty about jumping to the Big 10...it will be interesting to see what kind of a response your brother clone fans have to that.
I think most Clone fans would and have stated that a jump to the Big 10 would be great. Sure we'll rip the rival conference, and the arguements will go back and forth about who's better, blah, blah, blah.
But most Clones realize we're very much on the outside looking in when it comes to the power structure - everything is run out of Austin, not Dallas. This spring/summer cemented that little fact. No denying it. There's a reprieve right now for the Big XII, but the future is still much in limbo. And given the $$$ the Big 10 pulls in... well, hell yes. It's a no brainer really. I think most will acknowledge this.
But until that point.... the Big 10 sucks, of course...
FWIW - outside the obvious geographic issues - I think there are plenty who'd advocate heading to ANY BCS conference. Just for security.
Big 10 would be a perfect fit for us, but it isn't worth the time talking about it.
^^^^This
I think the Rivalry in the 80's solidified the Hawks with Hayden Fry. 15 straight wins gave the cyclones no fight in in-state recruiting. Without the instate rivalry I don't think Iowa is nearly as good as they are now. I'm just amazed at how many Hawk fans are scared of playing us.
True, but I think most of those clone fans were talking more about a team like Utah. I think most of us want this series to continue. I want to continue for not only the schools but for the state. We have one big sporting event each year. This is it. Even casual fans get up for this weekend. It's a fun time.
I actually just thought it was funny that the Iowa fans in the 70s were saying the same ******** they do now. Not so much a slam on Keeler, although I do think he's a giant Pud.
It's because Iowa fans replace their own failures and shortcomings with Hawkeye success more than any other fan base out there. They believe that because they choose to cheer for the Hawkeyes, it makes them a better person.
Wow you guys. I mean, I obviously think Keeler puts out a whole lot of crap (see my avatar), but I am failing to see what in this article makes you so upset. The whole point of the piece is to say, "Hey everyone, aren't we glad that somebody decided to be smart and got us this awesome game to watch every fall?"
I am fully convinced that if Sean Keeler were to run into a burning building and rescue Paul Rhodes, Coach Fred Hoiberg, and Jamie Pollard from certain death that some people on this board would still scream, cry and pout about how he is just a Cyclone-hating Hawkeye.
I will never understand why so many on here believe that a columnist for a newspaper should double as the beat writer for Iowa State athletics.
I am fully convinced that if Sean Keeler were to run into a burning building and rescue Paul Rhodes, Coach Fred Hoiberg, and Jamie Pollard from certain death that some people on this board would still scream, cry and pout about how he is just a Cyclone-hating Hawkeye.
I will never understand why so many on here believe that a columnist for a newspaper should double as the beat writer for Iowa State athletics.
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