Texas Tech 10 Million Dollar Portal Season

[FinalFourCy]

I wonder if the 15 other ADs have the stomach to give tech the ultimatum: you agree not to play Sorsby or you forfeit your membership in the Big 12. Right now, I don’t think Texas Tech has any friends in the SEC or Big 10 even if they tried to buy their way in.

They’d tie that up in court. No winner in that situation

Playing the villain role has/will elevate Tech’s profile. The Big 12 should get a gentlemen agreement with Tech to leave it in limbo but never play him.

Show that there are no guardrails right now, but don’t go over the cliff. Keep it in the press . Keep the hate for Tech high

 

[bluestarcyclone]

The integrity of every game he plays in next season should be questioned.

I feel like this is a bit on the dramatic side.

He never bet on games he played in.

He was an insider in his own program, to be sure. But there are thousands of insiders betting on games every single day, including the publisher of this website. If an insider betting on games calls into question the integrity of those games, then we're cooked already regardless (and may very well be!)

 

[DesertClone1]

Hakeem Butler... come on down!

 

[MeowingCows]

They’d tie that up in court. No winner in that situation

Playing the villain role has/will elevate Tech’s profile. The Big 12 should get a gentlemen agreement with Tech to leave it in limbo but never play him.

Show that there are no guardrails right now, but don’t go over the cliff. Keep it in the press . Keep the hate for Tech high

Tech doesn't really have a reason to submit to said agreement, though, unless the rest of the B12 is willing to shut them out of games entirely. That's the bargaining chip they have, and practically the only one available that makes a difference. They can't do anything to about the raw eligibility side or the Playoff side, but they can make it extremely difficult for Tech to play any games actually on its schedule (which does impact the Playoff way down the line, of course).

But not to play Sorsby while still playing the games also harms Tech directly and will piss off their supporters. That's not really beneficial for their program, either, but its better than playing no games at all, assuming the B12 has a system in place to get to that point.

 

[FinalFourCy]

I feel like this is a bit on the dramatic side.

He never bet on games he played in.

He was an insider in his own program, to be sure. But there are thousands of insiders betting on games every single day, including the publisher of this website. If an insider betting on games calls into question the integrity of those games, then we're cooked already regardless (and may very well be!)

The damage isn’t in whether the games are actually thrown or changed, it is in the doubt created that players may not want to win


The truth is that even without betting, there’s a whole host of games in which 18-24+ year olds may not care about winning. Or prioritizes their stats at expense of winning. Or even hope the team loses for whatever reasons

And some likely have been throwing games

But we don’t know about it

Knowing about it and there being no ban is a huge problem

 

[ZorkClone]

The final trial date has been set for Feb. 7, 2027. At which point this whole thing becomes moot. There are no rules because as long as you can get a TRO the court system moves to slow for it to matter.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Tech doesn't really have a reason to submit to said agreement, though, unless the rest of the B12 is willing to shut them out of games entirely. That's the bargaining chip they have, and practically the only one available that makes a difference. They can't do anything to about the raw eligibility side or the Playoff side, but they can make it extremely difficult for Tech to play any games actually on its schedule (which does impact the Playoff way down the line, of course).

But not to play Sorsby while still playing the games also harms Tech directly and will piss off their supporters. That's not really beneficial for their program, either, but its better than playing no games at all, assuming the B12 has a system in place to get to that point.

Sure Tech has incentive to comply. Playing him is a one act move for Tech. It may lead to more wins, but it won’t lead to what they want

The CFP isn’t going to select them, for example.

They’ll be blackballed for a long time

Leaving it in limbo but never playing him can be a win in still getting the attention, without the later consequences

 

[not-the-manager]

Sure Tech has incentive to comply. Playing him is a one act move for Tech. It may lead to more wins, but it won’t lead to what they want

The CFP isn’t going to select them, for example.

They’ll be blackballed for a long time

Leaving it in limbo but never playing him can be a win in still getting the attention, without the later consequences

 

[bluestarcyclone]

Sure Tech has incentive to comply. Playing him is a one act move for Tech. It may lead to more wins, but it won’t lead to what they want

The CFP isn’t going to select them, for example.

They’ll be blackballed for a long time

Leaving it in limbo but never playing him can be a win in still getting the attention, without the later consequences

If the CFP chose to not include them despite them being qualified because of a player a court had said could play, the CFP would lose a similar lawsuit.

No one is getting blackballed for playing players that have been allowed to play by the courts. He isn't the first, he won't be the last.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

Sorsby's problem is he needed this ruling to come out in August. It coming out now gives the NCAA and the Big 12 way too much time to respond.

I don’t think it matters. No appeal is going to be heard before the football season is over.

Tech doesn’t care about winning. They just needed to delay a resolution until after the season so Sorsby can play. Then they can drop the dispute.

Nothing much in college football surprises me anymore … but I’m speechless on this one. This is crazy

 

[jbhtexas]

Massive win for Cody Campbell. Tech saves its season AND outrage across college sports will push sentiment toward Federal intervention and the Score Act.

The local jurisdictions, whether it be NIL laws or local judges ruling on cases, are killing the NCAA's ability to do anything regulatory. It's looking like something on the Federal level is the only way to deal with that...

 

[Letterkenny]

I don’t think it matters. No appeal is going to be heard before the football season is over.

Tech doesn’t care about winning. They just needed to delay a resolution until after the season so Sorsby can play. Then they can drop the dispute.

Nothing much in college football surprises me anymore … but I’m speechless on this one. This is crazy

Yeah I just saw that the trial isn't until next year. There is nothing keeping a player from gaining unlimited eligibility, one year at a time until they're too old to physically play anymore. Just find a judge to grant a temporary injunction every season, trial scheduled after the season. Rinse and repeat. You can do that with any rule you want.

Quite frankly, if you're following any rules at this point, you're losing.

 

[Cyballzz]

If the CFP chose to not include them despite them being qualified because of a player a court had said could play, the CFP would lose a similar lawsuit.

No one is getting blackballed for playing players that have been allowed to play by the courts. He isn't the first, he won't be the last.

That lawsuit would get drug out just like the current appeal on the Sorsby Case that wont be heard until next February.

It really isn't that hard to leave a team out of CFP and come up with a ******** reason to exclude them.

 

[spierceisu]

So what the legal system is saying is there is no consequences for anything if it makes me happy? This is just insane to me?

 

[FinalFourCy]

You expect them to say otherwise? That would be incredibly idiotic and lead to a lawsuit

 

[ZorkClone]

Yeah I just saw that the trial isn't until next year. There is nothing keeping a player from gaining unlimited eligibility, one year at a time until they're too old to physically play anymore. Just find a judge to grant a temporary injunction every season, trial scheduled after the season. Rinse and repeat. You can do that with any rule you want.

Quite frankly, if you're following any rules at this point, you're losing.

This is really only a thing that can work on your final season. I believe once you reach the point this suit is at you cannot just unilaterally drop your suit. So in this case the NCAA would have to agree to drop it.

 

[jspeels]

Seeing higher ups say it’s just part of a broken system…..Broken system is true. Gambling isn’t a part of the broken system, it is now!

 

[WIBadger]

The damage isn’t in whether the games are actually thrown or changed, it is in the doubt created that players may not want to win


The truth is that even without betting, there’s a whole host of games in which 18-24+ year olds may not care about winning. Or prioritizes their stats at expense of winning. Or even hope the team loses for whatever reasons

And some likely have been throwing games

But we don’t know about it

Knowing about it and there being no ban is a huge problem

Yeah, I think the biggest thing is that doubt that it raises. Because if people start thinking that the games aren’t legit then that’s as bad as if they aren’t legit.

and do you really want to bet that the gambling addict wouldn’t bet against his team? This is the guy who beg the under on passing yards when he was the backup qb. I don’t think he will bet this season because there are so many people watching, but I wouldn’t take that bet

 

[FinalFourCy]

If the CFP chose to not include them despite them being qualified because of a player a court had said could play, the CFP would lose a similar lawsuit.

No one is getting blackballed for playing players that have been allowed to play by the courts. He isn't the first, he won't be the last.

Are you new to this?

Being in the Big 12 is already getting them blackballed, or rather they’re in the Big 12 because they’re not deemed to be of acceptable ilk

 

[not-the-manager]

You expect them to say otherwise? That would be incredibly idiotic and lead to a lawsuit

So there won't be lawsuit if they go 13-0 and aren't allowed to play in the playoff? I'll believe people in power care about anything other than the almighty eyeball when I see it, and Tech as a top-3 seed would be great for viewership