***Official St. Louis Cardinals Thread***

I’m having fun. I don’t care if it’s a “rebuilding” year. The team is very fun to watch. I know the starting rotation probably doesn’t hold up the entire year and half the bullpen is miserable but a lot of these young guys can play some serious ball.
Even if they don't always execute, they're playing smart baseball. And hustling.
 
St. Louis is showing spark this year, split the double header yesterday, but came back in the 2nd game to get into extra innings, I believe they are 7-2 in extra inning games this year. Walker is turning into the player the team has been hoping for the past 3 seasons.
Getting rid of the veterans, has allowed the young players and the coaching staff to be themselves and it shows on the field. They are young and having fun.
 
Card tidbit, with Carlos Santana on the IL, former Card Paul Goldschmidt is the oldest position player in MLB. Signed another year with Yanks as depth guy and mentor to Ben Rice (who's a catcher converted to 1st) but has got a lot of PT now with Stanton on the IL. And, not news to Card fans, he's supposed to be a great team and clubhouse guy.
 
St. Louis is showing spark this year, split the double header yesterday, but came back in the 2nd game to get into extra innings, I believe they are 7-2 in extra inning games this year. Walker is turning into the player the team has been hoping for the past 3 seasons.
Getting rid of the veterans, has allowed the young players and the coaching staff to be themselves and it shows on the field. They are young and having fun.
Man did you get all the softie cubs fans all riled up. I’d be pissed too if I saw my team absolutely crumble in two weeks and then give up 16 (and counting) to a bad giants teams
 
Man did you get all the softie cubs fans all riled up. I’d be pissed too if I saw my team absolutely crumble in two weeks and then give up 16 (and counting) to a bad giants teams
They can't handle the truth, sorry but they are not any better off than our Cards, in fact maybe worse off, because they have zero players ranked in the top 50 prospects on the latest Athletic list. St. Louis is set at every infield position but 3rd, have a DH playing catcher right now and have our future catcher in the minors. The outfield looks about the same, Walker will be fine in right, left and center still looking for answers, but at least we have players that might work, they really have few of that.
 
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I wouldn’t be throwing stones if I was a fan of a team that just got beat by 15 runs
No throwing stones here. Just happy to see you guys remembered you actually have your own thread. Maybe you'll even manage to talk about something other than the Cubs in it.
 
No throwing stones here. Just happy to see you guys remembered you actually have your own thread. Maybe you'll even manage to talk about something other than the Cubs in it.
Well between the weekly PCA little league blunders and the 4-14 stretch, it’s pretty fun to talk about the cubs. Cardinals are fun too, but CF obviously isn’t cardinals territory.
 
Really it was not my intent to piss them off, just pointed out that neither team is going to catch the Brewers. For some reason, they think they have a chance a to win the division.
 
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Cards sweep the Reds and now have an off day and then on to NY to play the Mets and then the Twins. We are really catching the Twins at the right time, they are struggling, Mets playing better but we can win 2 out of 3 if we keep hitting.
 
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Cards sweep the Reds and now have an off day and then on to NY to play the Mets and then the Twins. We are really catching the Twins at the right time, they are struggling, Mets playing better but we can win 2 out of 3 if we keep hitting.
We can think the Cards bullpen isn’t the greatest but the Reds’ sucks really badly. Day off also allows Noot his recovery day without skipping a game. And Dobbins is fully in the rotation now too. Pretty fun
 
We can think the Cards bullpen isn’t the greatest but the Reds’ sucks really badly. Day off also allows Noot his recovery day without skipping a game. And Dobbins is fully in the rotation now too. Pretty fun
Injuries have really killed the Reds season so far, Cards left a lot of runners on base this series, multiple times we would load the bases and only come away with a run. Perfect example in the 8th, loaded them up, no outs after already scoring two on a couple of errors by the Reds and we strand all three. Happened yesterday in the 6th or 7th. Today, two grounds outs with the out at home and a fly ball to end the inning is not situational baseball.
 
Very fun year so far. It seems like we have a pretty good handle on about 6 positions. Just pending CF, C, and 3B but catcher will be handled pretty easily as they work through Crooks, Bernal, and Rodriguez. Walker finally clicking (never would have expected this, especially given his ST struggles this year) has been an enormous amount of fun. He and JJ are worth the price of admission and would seem to be the cornerstones to build around.

If they keep hanging around the wild card race I'm very curious to see what they do at the deadline. Everything so far is saying they'll trade Romero and May but I'm just not sure we'll get all that much for Romero (reliever trades don't net much, even the Helsley trade last year doesn't seem overly optimistic for netting us a big leaguer). May likely will have some good value, but I wonder if they try to extend him instead if we are doing well. He's just 28, they'll have to spend money next year, and the hitting rebuild is seemingly close to done so I'd almost rather keep him. Again just thinking along the lines of what Jordan Montgomery nettted, it's still a crapshoot and unless you get a Top 100 guy....I'm just not sure how much value some mid-prospects hold now they they've rebuilt the farm system and have 6 picks in the top 90 of the upcoming draft.

Either way, hope they keep it up and give us some fun watching into late summer. But this year is a screaming success if JJ and Walker keep doing what they've been doing. I'm good with giving the benefit of the doubt to Bloom on how he maneuvers the deadline, he's seemingly earned that so far. If Doyle or Cijntje can pick it up and force their way to AAA by the end of the year, then this year couldn't have gone much better (and Franklin hopefully then backfills at AA for them). Just seems like we should be ready to push in 2027 once we get the pitching flushed out...and why I think it could make some sense to keep May around.
 
Very fun year so far. It seems like we have a pretty good handle on about 6 positions. Just pending CF, C, and 3B but catcher will be handled pretty easily as they work through Crooks, Bernal, and Rodriguez. Walker finally clicking (never would have expected this, especially given his ST struggles this year) has been an enormous amount of fun. He and JJ are worth the price of admission and would seem to be the cornerstones to build around.

If they keep hanging around the wild card race I'm very curious to see what they do at the deadline. Everything so far is saying they'll trade Romero and May but I'm just not sure we'll get all that much for Romero (reliever trades don't net much, even the Helsley trade last year doesn't seem overly optimistic for netting us a big leaguer). May likely will have some good value, but I wonder if they try to extend him instead if we are doing well. He's just 28, they'll have to spend money next year, and the hitting rebuild is seemingly close to done so I'd almost rather keep him. Again just thinking along the lines of what Jordan Montgomery nettted, it's still a crapshoot and unless you get a Top 100 guy....I'm just not sure how much value some mid-prospects hold now they they've rebuilt the farm system and have 6 picks in the top 90 of the upcoming draft.

Either way, hope they keep it up and give us some fun watching into late summer. But this year is a screaming success if JJ and Walker keep doing what they've been doing. I'm good with giving the benefit of the doubt to Bloom on how he maneuvers the deadline, he's seemingly earned that so far. If Doyle or Cijntje can pick it up and force their way to AAA by the end of the year, then this year couldn't have gone much better (and Franklin hopefully then backfills at AA for them). Just seems like we should be ready to push in 2027 once we get the pitching flushed out...and why I think it could make some sense to keep May around.
We have a huge hole at 3rd, Gorman is not going to be the answer there, I was looking at his stats yesterday and he has a negative WAR ranking. I really would like to see then go after Ace Reese, 3rd baseman from Miss. State if he is there at 13 when they draft, Best third baseman in draft, and a power hitter. Only 21 bats left 6'4 220 pounds. MLB has him ranked as the 21st best prospect, another ranking had him at 14th but another had him going to the Royals at 6. They sent down Victor Scott this morning, he had another negative WAR ranking, even worse than Gormans.

As far as buyers or sellers, I would still be a seller if you can pick up some pieces, for the future, while this teams is the first wild card right now, they do not have the pitching currently to go deep in the playoffs. Stick to the plan, catch Crooks a lot the rest of the season to see if he is the man and build more depth, I would also DFA Pages, guy has no future with all our catching coming up, and we need Crooks to get the playing time.
 
We have a huge hole at 3rd, Gorman is not going to be the answer there, I was looking at his stats yesterday and he has a negative WAR ranking. I really would like to see then go after Ace Reese, 3rd baseman from Miss. State if he is there at 13 when they draft, Best third baseman in draft, and a power hitter. Only 21 bats left 6'4 220 pounds. MLB has him ranked as the 21st best prospect, another ranking had him at 14th but another had him going to the Royals at 6. They sent down Victor Scott this morning, he had another negative WAR ranking, even worse than Gormans.

As far as buyers or sellers, I would still be a seller if you can pick up some pieces, for the future, while this teams is the first wild card right now, they do not have the pitching currently to go deep in the playoffs. Stick to the plan, catch Crooks a lot the rest of the season to see if he is the man and build more depth, I would also DFA Pages, guy has no future with all our catching coming up, and we need Crooks to get the playing time.
Yeah, the draft will be interesting with the sheer volume of picks. I like Reese a lot too - he's seemingly in that 13-30 range on most projections. I think 13 might be a tad early, but he's on an upward trend here in the last few weeks with how he finished his season. I'd maybe prefer and underslot at 13 and then use the cash pool they have to pull him down to 32, but no qualms if they nab him at 13.

I really like Tyler Bell - he's a shortstop but is big and has a good arm and I think could project pretty easily to 3B once he bumps into Winn. Not the power of Reese but would be a better defender, athlete, and is a switch hitter. I see a lot of helium on him so he may not even make it to 13 any longer but he'd be my "safe" pick there even with his shoulder injury that will need to be cleaned up a bit. I also like the high school profile of Condon and really like Zion Rose but he fits into that same bucket as Reese. If he gives you a deal at 13, I love it, but probably would just try to pull him down to 32.
 
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It’s been so fun that I don’t know what to do when they don’t play. Like I’m just lost tonight because the Cards are off. I actually am enjoying tuning into the farm system games but they don’t play on Mondays