Yeah, I get he is the "QB1" and is really good in ring and on mic, but man I just have very little interest in most of his stuff. Hopefully they can make this build with Randy into something compelling. I'll be hoping Randy gets to 15.
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Yeah, I get he is the "QB1" and is really good in ring and on mic, but man I just have very little interest in most of his stuff. Hopefully they can make this build with Randy into something compelling. I'll be hoping Randy gets to 15.
Interested in people's thoughts 2 weeks from Mania.
IMO this is one of the worst roads to Mania that I can remember. Both brands major titles storylines have been brutal. Pat being the guy on the phone is so bad.
The one that looked the best was Oba / Brock but given the Janel Grant stuff that came out especially naming Brock this time makes you wonder what they will do.
IMO this is one of the worst roads to Mania that I can remember. Both brands major titles storylines have been brutal. Pat being the guy on the phone is so bad.
The one that looked the best was Oba / Brock but given the Janel Grant stuff that came out especially naming Brock this time makes you wonder what they will do.
I honestly have had little care for WWE since The Rock derailed John Cena's heel run last year. It was such a brilliant idea to begin with - have Cena turn heel on Cody and reveal he took The Rock's offer that Cody turned nose up at... and then The Rock no-showed at Mania, and without him the whole thing didn't make a lick of sense - from which the IWC laid the blame at HHH's fee.
Now while I don't blame HHH for Rock no-showing, he has really been in a booking slump for the last year now. I don't know whether TKO is making it impossible for him to book the way he wants or after 4 years he's lost his touch, but the show hasn't been good for a long time. That said, AEW hasn't exactly been better.
I do think HHH is bring handcuffed a bit. Apparently it what Ari Emmanuel who made Pat the mystery guy on the phone.
A few quick thoughts: Punk/Reigns and Orton/Cody feuds seem fine and are fun but there's just not much storyline to go after. The Rollins bit has been fun. Love Paul Heyman but you can't back half the roster. I think Oba is the next "it" factor guy.
Overall, the product feels down. Seems likes they're leaning into just making money more so than producing quality talent/storylines ect. I've talked to people who make a lot more money than me and they tell me how its the price of a vacation anymore to go to something like Mania. It's all corporate now and I hear only 40k tix sold for each night so far.
Overall, the product feels down. Seems likes they're leaning into just making money more so than producing quality talent/storylines ect. I've talked to people who make a lot more money than me and they tell me how its the price of a vacation anymore to go to something like Mania. It's all corporate now and I hear only 40k tix sold for each night so far.
I’ve lost alot of interest in the last year. Oba and the ladder match is about all I have an interest in.
I still think the Cena retirement run derailed things tremendously. Just a year of cobbled together storylines to get him matches, with no real story telling. Mcafee being added two weeks before makes zero sense. Gunther/Seth has zero buildup. Jelly Roll and Lil Yachty is stupid. There’s just zero storytelling anymore.
If this is TKO trying to drive interest, this can’t possibly work, right? Who wasn’t watching and is going to watch now because of heel McAfer or Lil Yachty?
I still think the Cena retirement run derailed things tremendously. Just a year of cobbled together storylines to get him matches, with no real story telling. Mcafee being added two weeks before makes zero sense. Gunther/Seth has zero buildup. Jelly Roll and Lil Yachty is stupid. There’s just zero storytelling anymore.
If this is TKO trying to drive interest, this can’t possibly work, right? Who wasn’t watching and is going to watch now because of heel McAfer or Lil Yachty?
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I'm as cut off from pro wrestling as I've ever been in my long life so please don't interpret this as some kind of dig.
I see pretty numerous social media stuff that they're not selling tickets anymore.
Or at least not to the level they'd need to sustain and thrive.
Is this true?
I see pretty numerous social media stuff that they're not selling tickets anymore.
Or at least not to the level they'd need to sustain and thrive.
Is this true?
Ticket prices and the quality of the product no longer jive. It's getting wildly expensive to attend and the shows they are putting on most Mondays and Fridays are pretty mailed in. If you hit a Raw at MSG or LA, you'll get a good show. But for the smaller towns, they are just a bunch of boring mid-carders and maybe a promo from one of the main people. Just not worth the money.
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This year's Mania story lines aren't great. My son and I also lost a ton of interest when everything switched to the ESPN pay scheme to watch. I refuse to give ESPN $30 per month, so we don't really watch that anymore. We watch some Raw on Netflix and Smackdown some - but the main point is to get to the PLE's - and with not paying to have it, I lost most of my interest. I took him to Smackdown when it was in DC a year ago, and it was fun, but not like it used to be. Most of the stars he/I wanted to see weren't even there. Just seems the product is way watered down to make more money and fill 2x3 hour shows.
I do keep up on story lines on social media, and think the McAfee thing is one of the dumbest story line surprises they've done in a while. And I love McAfee.
I may try to find Mania some other manner, but we will see.
I do keep up on story lines on social media, and think the McAfee thing is one of the dumbest story line surprises they've done in a while. And I love McAfee.
I may try to find Mania some other manner, but we will see.
I think Cena deserved a final run and parts of it was amazing (the heel turn ect), but it dragged on way too long and just froze everything else in the biz it felt like. Let's hope this year's Mania gives us some surprises and good wrestling/story telling.
The thing that makes me laugh the hardest is the IWC thinking things with WWE will magically get better if Vince is brought back into the mix, conveniently forgetting 1. Vince himself was the one that drove WWE into the ground (at least storyline-wise) throughout the 2010s, and 2. the outright **** person Vince has been since AT LEAST the 1980s, but it reached such a point that he backed WWE into a corner and they were forced to remove him... that's the person they want to bring back because rasslin' is more important his behavior.
That's kind of the issue with Gunther's current angle though. You've made him the top heel as this legend killer, but how many people can you retire. Is a match with Mysterio really that exciting?
If Randy is anywhere near retirement I would have had them wrestle at Mania. Just the thought of him retiring Randy would have been a huge draw. I'd have had that end in some kind of DQ and make a year long feud of it, with him retiring him in the end. But maybe he's not that close to being done.
If Randy is anywhere near retirement I would have had them wrestle at Mania. Just the thought of him retiring Randy would have been a huge draw. I'd have had that end in some kind of DQ and make a year long feud of it, with him retiring him in the end. But maybe he's not that close to being done.
The Stockholm Syndrome wrestling fans have with Vince should be studied at a University Level.
Two things can be true:
Vince was phenomenal in how he grew all the circuits around the country into a modern day empire. I've heard some say he's a modern day P.T. Barnum.
However, it was clear in the 2010s, it'd become stale and the industry passed him by. Hell I remember one year maybe 2012ish where Smackdown's heavy weight fight was like Randy Orton vs. Christian 5 PPVs in a row. Then you throw in the disgusting personal crap and its clear he should be nowhere near the company now.
I think he has a plan and then TKO comes in and blows it all up at the last minute
Feels like they’re really setting up a WWE Old vs TKO with this Punk opening.
Punk pipe bombing the **** out of TKO right now. Damn near as good as the OG pipe bomb
Punk pipe bombing the **** out of TKO right now. Damn near as good as the OG pipe bomb
Almost feels like a potential setup for War Games.
Punk, Rhodes with WWE old heads.
Reigns, Randy with TKO
Punk, Rhodes with WWE old heads.
Reigns, Randy with TKO
