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NorthCyd

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We don’t really know how much he was or wasn’t talking to USC.
Fine. Let me rephrase. If I were to tell you it's a fact Matt Cambell was prepared to take the USC job would you feel the same, or do you hold the players to a different standard?
 
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You feel the same about Campbell and the USC job or do you hold the players to a different standard?
Age old response. That is Jamie's decision. How do know that Jamie didn't give him 4 hours to decide - in or out? Posters on this board have uniformed opinions, in general. Yes, I would be ok with Jamie saying you are with us or against us. I am also OK with MC saying clean out your lockers if you are making these declarations before the last game.
 

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So I'm assuming you've never changed jobs?

This is just silly. You commit to a school as a 18-19 year old kid. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Sometimes it isn't what you thought it would be based on your couple visits to the school. It happens. We are allowed in any other sector of society to move on from something we aren't happy with. Job, schools, marriages, etc. Why is a football team any different?
Nobody is disagreeing with that statement. They absolutely have that right and MC has the right to say leave now. Why is this so difficult?
 
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Fine. Let me rephrase. If I were to tell you it's a fact Matt Cambell was prepared to take the USC job would you feel the same, or do you hold the players to a different standard?
If he was prepared to take it then why is he still here? Because it wasn't offered.
 

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Still on the team, but not sure he sticks around if he’s pretty much guaranteed to be (at best) #3.

I feel like we need to add one more back now. Because the “i” word.

I expect Hansen to put on about ten pounds in the off-season and be a total beast next year.
Harris would need to think long and hard as he's used up his free transfer. Next one would mean a year sitting out.
 

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Probably would feel more comfortable if one of the two RBs stayed but when the writing is on the wall they might as well jump. Guessing we see a portal add for depth.
 

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Didn't seem to bother Rocco & Brenden Black.

Best wishes to the both of them. They ran hard and will be solid backs somewhere else. Homeboy Sama is the future.


I saw Rocco at the CyHok wrestling meet. Told him that some of us were doubting him early in the game as a "Florida boy who may not be able to handle the snow, but you definitely showed us!" He just chuckled.
 

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Why are you using a hypothetical?
Most of the discussion surrounding these 2 is hypothetical at this point. Lots of assumptions being made in this thread about the situation but no one on CF really knows for sure how it went down.
 
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So I'm assuming you've never changed jobs?

This is just silly. You commit to a school as a 18-19 year old kid. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Sometimes it isn't what you thought it would be based on your couple visits to the school. It happens. We are allowed in any other sector of society to move on from something we aren't happy with. Job, schools, marriages, etc. Why is a football team any different?
Well put. These kids have a finite window to play college ball. Some might think they have a shot at playing the next level. Some might just want to see the field while they're in college. Either way, if it's not working for them, best to move on.

Too many fans forget that a vast majority of players on the roster didn't grow up as Cyclone fans. That's not a knock on them, or on Iowa State. I can't imagine it's true at any level of football - players are there because that team gave them the best opportunity available when they were looking for a team to join.

Fans root for their team out of love. Players play for a team because it's their job.
 

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Well put. These kids have a finite window to play college ball. Some might think they have a shot at playing the next level. Some might just want to see the field while they're in college. Either way, if it's not working for them, best to move on.

Too many fans forget that a vast majority of players on the roster didn't grow up as Cyclone fans. That's not a knock on them, or on Iowa State. I can't imagine it's true at any level of football - players are there because that team gave them the best opportunity available when they were looking for a team to join.

Fans root for their team out of love. Players play for a team because it's their job.
I hate the thought of that, but I bet you are absolutely correct.
 

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If both end up at a g5, that's two terrible rb recruiting classes the staff missed on, went from our deepest position to our thinnest. Missed on these two and Silas. It's a lot like the linebacker classes from 3 or 4 years ago, hope it doesn't come back to haunt us IM a year or two like that group.
 
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Not exactly sure.
Probably wouldnt be Hansen. Incoming freshman Dylan Lee would have ended up taking carries from them too
Hanson has been more of a third down back for pass blocking and dump passes. Norton would probably have lost snaps in that area. His lazy route is what was a big cause for the Iowa pick six.
 
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