How many people donated to We Will today?
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I don't think so - I don't remember reading your specific post before posting mine. Just a more general comment.
That's fine, and I do understand your point, but you lose any right to complain if you're not donating. Mad because our o line sucks? Pony up the cash. I don't like it either, but that's reality.
I like the direction of this thread.
Really if you dont donate to this you can't complain about the program? This is so comical.
I’m more of a soft pass at this point. Was a hard pass…love ISU. Having a hard time donating money to this, but I appreciate what Brent and others are trying to do. I kind of hope at this point I can find a reason to donate.
Admittedly one of the recent podcasts by Brent and Chris got me to right it down in my “to-do/to consider” notebook. Here’s my problem. Some of the other charitable causes written next to it…a food pantry, a homeless outreach, org that helps abandoned kids in China, org that takes disabled kids fishing, an org that helps get women out of human trafficking. I’m struggling with the idea that if I add the We Will Collective to that group…I’m technically taking money away from those places.
If you looked at it as entertainment spending perspective vs charitable spending would that help you?
Would you donate $20 a month to keep Breece Hall from transferring if he played in this NIL era? I think a lot of Cyclone fans would and that is a similar situation we are in with trying to keep our best players.
I made the username before the schools starting tricking people into thinking it was their responsibility pay the athletes. I’m not anti paying players, I’m anti putting it all in the fans.
I don't have a problem with the We Will Collective or those donating to it. If people want to to donate to college athletics, that's fine -- great even. But trying to shame other fans into doing so is, shall we say, one-star culture ********.
But it is worth noting that this is a war we probably will not and cannot win. If open NIL is the new reality of college football, ISU and schools like it simply cannot compete, no matter how much our fan base is hounded to whip out their checkbooks. Our fan base may be the most loyal, but we aren't the richest or the biggest by a long shot. There's nothing wrong with refusing to throw good money after bad and refusing to enter an unwinnable arms race.
But it is worth noting that this is a war we probably will not and cannot win. If open NIL is the new reality of college football, ISU and schools like it simply cannot compete, no matter how much our fan base is hounded to whip out their checkbooks. Our fan base may be the most loyal, but we aren't the richest or the biggest by a long shot. There's nothing wrong with refusing to throw good money after bad and refusing to enter an unwinnable arms race.
I agree, it sucks! No one here is saying this is how things should be. Iowa and K-state won’t stop piling NIL money because you and I don’t like the system though.
Either we adapt and build this thing or we won’t have a program worth a damn. I would hope everyone on this website would be aligned on this, especially those who are “all in”
It is a thread about We Will Collective. If you feel that you are being hounded to whip out your checkbook, maybe skip over it.
Are we ever going to outspend Bama and Ohio St on NIL arms race spending? Of course not, and we never were in the past. But in the future Big 12, there’s no reason ISU can’t be competitive in fan donations. It’s absurd to basically just say we should give up now.
I'm addressing the issue here because I've seen hounding/pressure/guilting/etc. spilling out into other threads.
If that is the case please address them in those threads. You can even direct them to this thread that is dedicated to We Will Collective.
People act like fans won’t be paying the players if the AD is paying the players directly. Where do you think this magic money comes from? Same with the pros.
If we're admitting that we can never compete with the B1G/SEC in the current NIL landscape -- and that we're relegating to only competing with the Big 12, whatever remains of the PAC, the ACC and the G5 -- I don't really see the value. But again, that's just me.
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