They were picked dead last in the ACC and the ACC is down.They didn't seem fundamentally sound. I have to think they're ready or more so need to move on from Pastner
They were picked dead last in the ACC and the ACC is down.They didn't seem fundamentally sound. I have to think they're ready or more so need to move on from Pastner
This one goes to eleven.
The ACC is incredibly bad this year. Duke not looking as good as they usually are. UNC topples 17 spots down the polls in one week. FSU and Louisville with 1 win combined.They were picked dead last in the ACC and the ACC is down.
Being proven that he isn't a good coach, but his first four years at Memphis were really good. I know he was buying players, but still it was pretty good.I never got the love for Pastner. I don't think he's a good coach at all.
Define "really good". He has never made the second weekend of the NCAA tournament despite inheriting a winning Memphis program.Being proven that he isn't a good coach, but his first four years at Memphis were really good. I know he was buying players, but still it was pretty good.
Define "really good". He has never made the second weekend of the NCAA tournament despite inheriting a winning Memphis program.
No kidding, next thing you know we'll be hanging out on some hok board wondering why they talk about what they do.Not sure why Cyclone fans care so much about the age of Iowa players.
Doesn't McCabe have some kids basketball age by now?I love to bring this up because it’s so humorous but in 2025 Iowa will have 4 players on the roster that are legacies.
Pryce Sandfort
Luke Wieskamp
Jack McCaffery
Cooper Koch
Franny didn't recommend ****.....it was all their daddy. Knew they weren't ready for college....Because we find it humorous that so many hawk players can't let go. It is a noticeable pattern that has occurred under Fran especially. He likes to use redshirts, and likes to find ways to keep his players for as long as he can.
The Murrays were a bit different. They had the year of prep school between HS and Iowa, which is where I think their potential was truly tapped into. Not sure whose idea it was for them to go to prep school. Maybe Fran recommended it, but I'm guessing family decision.
Kris appears to a mid-first round pick on most draft boards. I don’t get all the grousing about Fran “slow playing”. Although I find it funny.Fran intentionally slow playing Kris is flat out gross and I'm surprised it doesn't get talked about more. Iowa fans need to stop crediting Fran for Garza and the Murrays, the majority of their development has not taken place in Iowa City.
Again, most mock boards show him as a mid first round pick. Apparently they disagreed with you on his age.I know you're probably not an NBA fan due to the lack of success Iowa players have in the league, but age is pretty important in basketball.
Because he's an exception to the rule proves that my point is wrong?Again, most mock boards show him as a mid first round pick. Apparently they disagreed with you on his age.
Agbaji was a first round pick last year at 22.Because he's an exception to the rule proves that my point is wrong?
I don't know man it just doesn't pass the smell test. So Kris averaged 18(!) minutes a game last year, and now he's going for 30 and 20 in a game?! I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kenyon and Fran put this plan together. Feature Keegan (who's a little better) one year and then feature Kris a year later to maximize each kids publicity and draft stock. I mean more power to them. If the boys were on board there's really nothing wrong with it. Lord knows Iowa would be completely screwed without Kris this year. Fran would've had to bring in an impact transfer and I'm not sure he's capable.Kris appears to a mid-first round pick on most draft boards. I don’t get all the grousing about Fran “slow playing”. Although I find it funny.
Kris was pretty hot and cold last year. THere were games where he really didn't do much in his 18 minute and then there were games he would go off. He also fouled a lot.I don't know man it just doesn't pass the smell test. So Kris averaged 18(!) minutes a game last year, and now he's going for 30 and 20 in a game?! I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kenyon and Fran put this plan together. Feature Keegan (who's a little better) one year and then feature Kris a year later to maximize each kids publicity and draft stock. I mean more power to them. If the boys were on board there's really nothing wrong with it. Lord knows Iowa would be completely screwed without Kris this year. Fran would've had to bring in an impact transfer and I'm not sure he's capable.
And Keegan is in his year 22 season. Again, age is a big factor in drafting players. NBA drafts on pure potential. There will be outliers, but for the most part, you will age out.Agbaji was a first round pick last year at 22.
Maybe if Kris played more with his brother, Fran would have made it out of the first weekend.Kris appears to a mid-first round pick on most draft boards. I don’t get all the grousing about Fran “slow playing”. Although I find it funny.
. Why it is rare for players that are older to get drafted is that most of the players declare for the draft when they are younger. So just be elimination there are only going to be a few NBA type players that stick around in college for an extra year or two that are NBA players. It has nothing to do with "aging out". They are just not good enough.And Keegan is in his year 22 season. Again, age is a big factor in drafting players. NBA drafts on pure potential. There will be outliers, but for the most part, you will age out.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...uld-be-a-big-factor-when-evaluating-prospects
"In fact, players who were drafted at the age of 23 or older actually tended to be busts on average. "
Exactly. It is asinine of hawk fans, coaches, Murray family members, et. all, to assume that Keegan and Kris can only thrive independent of one another. They quite likely had 2 NBA lottery picks on the same roster last season, and one only played 18 mpg.Maybe if Kris played more with his brother, Fran would have made it out of the first weekend.