I had no idea!

ZJohnson

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Wow crazy. Also this shows that stars me jack ----. If a three star wins the Heisman and starts as a Freshman (Redshirt) than you know these ranking systems are flawed.
 

NobodyBeatsCy

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Anybody want to have a debate on whether or not he would have won the Heisman if he came here? I think he made the right choice
 

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I didn't know that. On a related note...Michael Crabtree's final 3 were Tech, Kansas and Iowa.
 

intrepid27

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I'm guessing the main reason Sam started as a freshman was due to the Rhett Bhomar (sp) "No Work - All pay " debacle. I think Stoops was pretty much forced in to using him ealier than planned are Bhomar was kicked off team.
 

djcubby

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I'm pretty sure he'd be in the exact same place if he was playing for a number of other schools.
Yes, the talent would be there, but the pass first system would not be. You can't tell me that he would have the same number of receptions and yards playing at Iowa.

Harrell and Crabtree go hand in hand, which is why they were both in the heisman race. Green and Crabtree would have to give, one way or the other.
 

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Bradford was OU all the way. He just had to wait for Stoops to give him the Scholly and his mind was made up. It was basically OU and if they never offered it was everyone else.
 

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I didn't know that. On a related note...Michael Crabtree's final 3 were Tech, Kansas and Iowa.

Coming from you, I will not believe it for a second. Some proof could help you in many of your claims.
 
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Yes, the talent would be there, but the pass first system would not be. You can't tell me that he would have the same number of receptions and yards playing at Iowa.

Harrell and Crabtree go hand in hand, which is why they were both in the heisman race. Green and Crabtree would have to give, one way or the other.

I'll give you that point. TTU's passing offense is unmatched.
 

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