You would need at least 7 or 8 to dissolve. And the top 6 teams will likely be SEC or B1G. They are not signing up to bind themselves to teams that will leave them and covet the same B1G and SEC possible spots.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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You would need at least 7 or 8 to dissolve. And the top 6 teams will likely be SEC or B1G. They are not signing up to bind themselves to teams that will leave them and covet the same B1G and SEC possible spots.
I'm a bit curious about whether The Big Ten Network can bully its way on to the 1st tier cable packages in LA. They had to pry their way into New York by piggy-backing with YES. They even had a really difficult time getting into Minneapolis way back in the day.
Getting the Husker faithful in Omaha to contribute a few dollars a month for extra Husker content is easy. Getting a bunch of aspiring actors and musicians to willingly contribute that money in a city with a million things to do and great weather every day is a different animal.
I know I'm generalizing and I know that it's always worked out for the BTN but, at some point, there is a line.
Or maybe I just don't understand this very well.
Getting the Husker faithful in Omaha to contribute a few dollars a month for extra Husker content is easy. Getting a bunch of aspiring actors and musicians to willingly contribute that money in a city with a million things to do and great weather every day is a different animal.
I know I'm generalizing and I know that it's always worked out for the BTN but, at some point, there is a line.
Or maybe I just don't understand this very well.
Do you need ND to be a full member to make it viable though? If ND is going to continue to schedule a minimum of 4 ACC games a year that might be enough. If you add some Pac 12 schools (notably Stanford in this case) you can probably talk them into agreeing to 6 a year.
For a very large portion of the fanbase they are indeed the same. We're currently in the top tier, the Power Five. Lose that, and people like me (unfortunately we're the majority) will lose all interest. And if that happens it's an existential threat to ISU football.
They aren't wrong, but not for the reasons they think.
USC and UCLA probably add more value to the Big 10 than they do the Pac 12. A late night game between 2 Pac 12 teams is pretty regional and blah. You aren't going to get a national audiance. However, a last night game of Iowa @ UCLA or Penn State @ USC is going to drive bigger ratings. In addition to the west coast fans, you've got the more passionate Big 10 fans who might tune in.
Could work to a lesser extent with the Big 12. Iowa State @ Arizona is going to drive much bigger late night ratings than Stanford @ Arizona. Hell, a lot more Big 12 fans would watch Cincinnati @ Arizona as well.
The only way this "helps" the Pac 12 as it is if they can merge with the Big 12 or ACC or have some type of scheduling agreement.
Need Notre Dame to give up the $75 million to take less money to save the PAC 12. Not gonna happen.
Clemson and Oregon and Stanford are nice but I don't see how the ACC gains any kind of serious media rights value for the conference without ND as a member. I don't think the ACC would gain any real value in its media deal from networks if they say "we know ND isn't a member, but they play four/five of our teams every year", mainly because ND could probably pull out of that scheduling arrangement any time they want.
Some type of merger or scheduling agreement could put SEC in a position of being the only conference not able to schedule games in all time zones. No idea how impactful that is for new TV deals, but provides some competition, right? B10, Big 12, and some type of remaining PAC 12, ACC, ND “alliance” (I’m using that purposefully 
) can fill all time slots. SEC couldn’t.
) can fill all time slots. SEC couldn’t.Yup. Nothing these guys like old Stewie are saying makes any sense. If the Big 12 was pushing out this similar type of stuff, the national media would be crushing them relentlessly.
that's what contracts are for. I believe ND's contract with the ACC is up in 2025 or thereabouts. Hard to envision any network negotiating with the ACC not asking for an iron clad scheduling agreement with ND and hard to imagine ND not agreeing to it because it's their only real chance of remaining "independent"
Small note, B1G will not have any teams in the Mountain Time Zone, soon that will be all the Big12.Some type of merger or scheduling agreement could put SEC in a position of being the only conference not able to schedule games in all time zones. No idea how impactful that is for new TV deals, but provides some competition, right? B10, Big 12, and some type of remaining PAC 12, ACC, ND “alliance” (I’m using that purposefully
Acc already kicked the tires on the pac with the alliance, at best they are waiting to split leftovers with the big 12. Who knows though, maybe that changes in the decade or so before they start making moves.
When the PAC12 finally crumbles for good, someone legitimately should do frequent welfare checks on Stewie. He’s gonna lose his mind.
It is helpful for ND to have a home for non football sports, which is part of ACC agreement.
How many are in SEC?
NBC floating a Big 20 with teams on west coast is likely their only hope of retaining ND if the ACC goes to SEC.
ND having the same alignment with SEC+ACC 6-8 could make them more with ESPN than being with NBC , and likely comes with CFP protection (don’t have to worry about joining a conference or getting shut out). SEC/ESPN wouldn’t do it unless green light from ND, naturally
The difference would be that the Big Ten would require ND to split the revenue equally. If ND gets 75M for just their football programming, they will be pretty close to Big Ten revenues and will be able to maintain their independence.
Hard to disagree. Your last paragraph just irks me because the shrewd baaturds are likely doing just that. All at the likelihood of ruining college athletics.
Only if there is NIL money involved. He has his principles!
