Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

[AuH2O]

It’s not a travel anymore. Changed the rules this year.

No, the loosest definition of a gather would still have this as a gather step plus three steps back. And there is emphasis to not let a guy use a gather to basically hold the ball and take multiple steps. This is, always has been and always should be a travel.

 

[qwerty]

Yeah that’s a travel and it isn’t close. And the point was to stop allowing the ridiculous gather interpretation that was letting guys travel twice over without being called.

That is a clear travel even in the period when the ridiculous fantasy “gather” interpretation was accepted for a few years.

They are attempting to get the game closer to NBA style rules and thus will let a LOT more go as far as travel, etc.

 

[CascadeClone]

It's crazy how Iowa's minutes get handed out, how does JorBo get 30 minutes? I'm guessing they don't think Kris Murray can guard 2's so they need another guard starting but seems like Ulis or Perkins can give you the 6 points, 2 boards, 1 assist and 3 turnovers that Jorbo brings while also giving you a bit more athleticism. Those two aren't amazing but Jorbo got as many minutes as they did combined and their box score line looks about the same as his.

I have watched about 50 minutes of Iowa bball this year, but I think they would be better with more Perkins and Ulis and a lot less CMac and Jorbo. You get a ton more flexibility on offense (maybe not better, but more options) and now have 5 guys who can play defense instead of 3.

I guess Fran treats turnovers same as Kirk - fumble once and you just don't see the field (court) anymore.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Yeah that’s a travel and it isn’t close. And the point was to stop allowing the ridiculous gather interpretation that was letting guys travel twice over without being called.

That is a clear travel even in the period when the ridiculous fantasy “gather” interpretation was accepted for a few years.

It's not a travel. When he takes his first step back he hadn't gathered the ball yet. Once he gathered, he has two steps just like a layup. Yes, it looks awkward but no it's not a travel.

 

[AuH2O]

It's not a travel. When he takes his first step back he hadn't gathered the ball yet. Once he gathered, he has two steps just like a layup. Yes, it looks awkward but no it's not a travel.

No. It’s gather step, then one step back. He then can either take one step back and go up, or jump stop and go up. He does both. You can’t do that. That’s allowing to define a really long gather. Under the less generous definition of the gather, he takes gather step back, two more, then jump stop and goes up.
Maybe we need @brentblum to weigh in.

 

[LarryISU]

I don’t know how that resume gets you in.

Iowa's resume is not likely to get them in. But just having Murray will. Add in the perennially over-hyped B1G, there you go!

 

[AuH2O]

They are attempting to get the game closer to NBA style rules and thus will let a LOT more go as far as travel, etc.

They implemented the gather step two years ago. In the NBA they have been trying to get tighter on calling a gather step more realistically.

 

[Statefan10]

 

[DSMCy]

Lol now that is a take.
Hey, I would have been a really good basketball player too, if I was playing with the national player of the year.

 

[CloniesForLife]

Think they will create an award for best post feeder?

 

[qwerty]

Where did you expect Iowa to be at this point of the season?

Lose 3 starters and player of year and Nunge who would have made a HUGE difference on this team. We are exceeding expectations. Win at Penn State and still right there on the right side of the bubble. Goodness people.

iowa.forums.rivals.com

They think if they beat #98 Penn State Sunday, they are sitting good for a NCAA bid. Maybe they are, but I still don't see any good wins on their slate. If Indiana slides just a couple of spots, they have zero top 40 wins (home or away). IF they beat Michigan at CHA, they would have two top 60 wins (both in the 40s and both at home).

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Iowa's resume is not likely to get them in. But just having Murray will. Add in the perennially over-hyped B1G, there you go!

That is kind of what my thoughts are. Star power will get them in unless they get some Q1 wins somehow and make it on merit. Star power matters a lot to the selection committee. In 17-18, a pretty average OU team went dancing because they had Trae Young. This Iowa team is pretty similar except Keegan Murray is no Trae Young. Still a star though, who will be averaging north of 20 ppg and probably a 1st or 2nd team AA. If they continue to struggle against Q1 teams, but take care of the rest and go 20-10 they will probably make it in the Last 4 In would be my current prediction. Keegan gets a guaranteed game in front of the March Madness audience and an outside chance at 2.

 

[JP4CY]

 

[CRcyclone6]

I needed this laugh today. Pure gold!

 

[NWICY]

What did he do? I never saw him get close to ban worthy.

I believe him and a hawk poster took the ban on the subject of NIL money on a hawk FB player.

 

[NWICY]

Why in the hell don’t both Murrays play at the same time for the entire game?

Because you have to always have at at least on Mccaffery on the floor at once?

 

[NWICY]

Didn’t know pants got banned as well. Weird.

He got into it with CW about ads on mobile.

 

[Antihawk240]

That is kind of what my thoughts are. Star power will get them in unless they get some Q1 wins somehow and make it on merit. Star power matters a lot to the selection committee. In 17-18, a pretty average OU team went dancing because they had Trae Young. This Iowa team is pretty similar except Keegan Murray is no Trae Young. Still a star though, who will be averaging north of 20 ppg and probably a 1st or 2nd team AA. If they continue to struggle against Q1 teams, but take care of the rest and go 20-10 they will probably make it in the Last 4 In would be my current prediction. Keegan gets a guaranteed game in front of the March Madness audience and an outside chance at 2.

This pains me and hurts me to say.....but Iowa should be entitled to make the tournament if they can at least make a non BS argument. They have (at this point at least) 1 of the best basketball players in the nation. If the selection committee adds Iowa they will at least be able to showcase Keegan and put him on a platform to help his draft stock. I don't like Iowa. I think Bobo is a twerp who is ruining their brand. Fran is pathetic. While I think Iowa should be penciled in a slot, I would deep inside chuckle if they didn't. But I can't wish ill will on Keegan because he is associated with that circus.

It reminds Cyinthenorth of Trae Young. It reminds me of Steph Curry. No one had a clue who that dude was until he put Davidson on a national platform. Put Keegan in the tournament and let him play. There are far worse teams that have been entitled.

Now if Iowa gets bounced and left out, Keegan will go on to the NBA and I just hope he tells his brother, get out of there while you still have a chance.

 

[Rural]

This pains me and hurts me to say.....but Iowa should be entitled to make the tournament if they can at least make a non BS argument. They have (at this point at least) 1 of the best basketball players in the nation. If the selection committee adds Iowa they will at least be able to showcase Keegan and put him on a platform to help his draft stock. I don't like Iowa. I think Bobo is a twerp who is ruining their brand. Fran is pathetic. While I think Iowa should be penciled in a slot, I would deep inside chuckle if they didn't. But I can't wish ill will on Keegan because he is associated with that circus.

It reminds Cyinthenorth of Trae Young. It reminds me of Steph Curry. No one had a clue who that dude was until he put Davidson on a national platform. Put Keegan in the tournament and let him play. There are far worse teams that have been entitled.

Now if Iowa gets bounced and left out, Keegan will go on to the NBA and I just hope he tells his brother, get out of there while you still have a chance.

Mount Rushmore

 

[NWICY]

Iowa hits a 3 with 18 seconds left to cut lead to 12. Fran calls timeout.

I saw the final got down to 10(?). I wondered if Iowa hit a couple of late but useless 3's to close the gap. Evidently they did.