The Deion Sanders thread

Don't mind me over here, trying to figure out why I should view a kid parlaying his skills and abilities into a multi-million dollar payday as a bad thing.

It's a violent sport and nothing is certain. Get your money.

The kids are doing nothing wrong, hell, I'm happy for them but this specific situation is sleazy.

If there was no barstool connection, it wouldn't feel as bad IMO.
 
I do hope they clamp down on the transfer-piece though making it tougher to bounce around to the highest payer like the Texas Quinn Ewars transfer.

Like when Brian Kelly left his team for the highest payer before they even knew whether or not they were in the playoff?

I have no issue with kids having freedom to leave for better opportunities at any time. There are ways to establish rules to make this work... but there is no commissioner and no central authority watching over college athletics to implement this framework. Until they establish a governing body that defines the rules, the rules will continue to be defined by the conferences and schools with the money.

I don't like some of the outcomes, but I do think the players having the freedom to move around and get paid is a good thing. Nothing is guaranteed. Scholarships are year to year (you can be "cut" at anytime if you are not good enough). Players need to have the same freedom coaches have and they need to be paid fairly.
 
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The market will correct itself, as it did in the NBA with people gambling on high school prospects. Far from sure investments.

Maybe, but the NBA has a collective bargaining agreement, a commissioner, and the teams are governed by the association's rules. This allows them to have rookie contracts, a draft, a league minimum, unified medical policy, trade rules, free agent rules, and the list goes on. The market may correct how much NIL is worth, but that doesn't change the fact players are only allowed to get paid above their scholarship with "endorsement" deals and the NCAA has relatively little power.
 
The market will correct itself, as it did in the NBA with people gambling on high school prospects. Far from sure investments.
This is no gamble by Barstool. It’s already paid off.

once the novelty of these deals is gone there will be more reasonable corporate NIL, but the booster side will always be nuts. The arms race buildout to get recruits never had a good ROI, although having your name on something has value too
 
100% NCAA's fault. They fought this for so long and could have compromised and made it more regulatable. Let it go all the way to the Supreme Court and they have no leg to stand on now.
The Supreme Court hasn't made any ruling on NIL for college athletes. The ruling they recently made on athlete compensation implied that NIL for college athletes can't be prohibited. The NCAA subsequently allowed NIL.

The NCAA could have allowed NIL a decade ago, and the states would have done the same thing back then that they did now, which is enacting hands-off NIL laws in order to give maximum advantage to the schools in their respective states.

There are a couple of possibilities for regulation:
1) A Federal NIL law that supersedes the various state laws
2) The NCAA sitting back and letting the NIL cesspool fester out of control for a year or two, and then putting regulations in place (which would be in violation of the laws in the 29 states that presently have NIL laws). This would ultimately end up in the courts, and the NCAA might gain a favorable ruling allowing them to regulate NIL if they can convince the courts that unregulated NIL has had a negative effect on college athletics, and that regulated NIL would be a better solution.

By the time either of these get done, the damage might already be done to schools like ISU.
 
Maybe, but the NBA has a collective bargaining agreement, a commissioner, and the teams are governed by the association's rules. This allows them to have rookie contracts, a draft, a league minimum, unified medical policy, trade rules, free agent rules, and the list goes on. The market may correct how much NIL is worth, but that doesn't change the fact players are only allowed to get paid above their scholarship with "endorsement" deals and the NCAA has relatively little power.
Sure. It may take awhile. But once players start getting taken to court over who knows what because whatever booster entity isn't pleased with what they got in return on their investment etc, some sort of regulatory system will arise. Be it the NCAA or a new governing body.
 
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Deion Sanders as a college football coach and the NIL era were made for each other. I wonder what P5 program desperate to make a splash will snap him, and this kid, up in a year or two.
 
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Would be amazing to see Barstool do this regularly, become a major influence on college football.
They better hope that PENN figures out a way to get their stock price back up. Ol Dave is pretty salty about Pat getting his huge Fan Dual deal
 
I see the words "gross" and "sleazy" and I guess I still don't get it. What is "gross" or "sleazy" about any of this? This kid used his skills and abilities to secure a paycheck, just like people are allowed to do in literally any other business. If instead of being a world-class football player this kid was a genius in science are we going to be mad that Apple pays him millions for his services? I just don't get it.
 
They better hope that PENN figures out a way to get their stock price back up. Ol Dave is pretty salty about Pat getting his huge Fan Dual deal

Dave always comes out on top so wouldn’t worry about that.
 
I see the words "gross" and "sleazy" and I guess I still don't get it. What is "gross" or "sleazy" about any of this? This kid used his skills and abilities to secure a paycheck, just like people are allowed to do in literally any other business. If instead of being a world-class football player this kid was a genius in science are we going to be mad that Apple pays him millions for his services? I just don't get it.
TBH, yes. Big Android group in CF.
 
Sure. It may take awhile. But once players start getting taken to court over who knows what because whatever booster entity isn't pleased with what they got in return on their investment etc, some sort of regulatory system will arise. Be it the NCAA or a new governing body.
Booster money has never been about monetary ROI

It’s about winning, and conspicuous consumption
 

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