Bolton is now officially in Portal as expected.

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Had to Google to refresh my memory on why he left PSU (coaches insensitive comment). In doing so I ran across this comment.

....Rashir will now be looking to play for his third college after playing for four different high school teams....

No matter what the reason for him leaving, that has to be difficult.
 

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Had to Google to refresh my memory on why he left PSU (coaches insensitive comment). In doing so I ran across this comment.

....Rashir will now be looking to play for his third college after playing for four different high school teams....

No matter what the reason for him leaving, that has to be difficult.
That should be a clue to himself and others, that he is a problem or a person with issues.
 

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The team had a vote when TJ got to town and it was decided the majority did not want Rasir around anymore and TJ told him to pack his bags upon graduation

There is no way there is a player or players on this team that are important enough or have enough pull within the program to tell a player to not come back.

If its a coaching staff decision, fine. If its a senior laden team, fine.
But a team of freshman and sophomores (none of with any accolades) is not voting players off the team.
 
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You don’t see a difference between amateur unpaid student athletes and millionaire professional basketball players?
Vaguely, given the pay coming their way it's lessening. Who is more of a kid, a soon to graduate Rasir Bolton or a 19 year old without college? How much did those Kansas kids make?
 

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There is no way there is a player or players on this team that are important enough or have enough pull within the program to tell a player to not come back.
It’s true. The majority of players on the squad didn’t want him back. Best of luck to him and I appreciate his fight through this tough season.
 

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I can't imagine it's worse than some of the guys I played football with. For example Justin Eilers (RIP) was a complete pyscho, always wanting to fight his teammates. In fact one day practicing in the Rec Center he picked a fight with Enis Haywood (RIP) and Enis broke Justin's jaw, it had to be wired shut for multiple weeks. No way in hell I'd ever vote to kick him off the team.
How does a coach handle situations like that? Just let the team figure it out, police themselves, or step in? How much leash do you give a player that misbehaves in some way?

Second thought and unrelated to this football analogy. It seems likely to maybe even obvious now, that Prohm did not have a good handle on the locker room chemistry of his team?
 

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The team had a vote when TJ got to town and it was decided the majority did not want Rasir around anymore and TJ told him to pack his bags upon graduation
Remember when all of those who were saying his teammates didn’t like him were told by others here that it wasn’t true and they were bad fans for spreading rumors? Welp.
It’s still happening.
 
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Understandable, but the personal attacks and vitriol I get after every post has only gotten worse and more vulgar over the past 15 years - sometimes because I'm "airing dirty laundry", because I'm "not providing enough detail and context", or because things change so damn quickly in the world of athletes, recruits, etc. I'm exhausted with life and people so being very careful with what I say.

People will always speculate so I would prefer to leave it as it was an unanimous team decision and wish him the best from there. Onward and upward.
And that's the way you should leave it. We do not need all the details. And unfortunately people are going to have differing opinions over the years, and some do not voice those opinions in a nice manner. You are doing the right thing in being careful with what you say.

We appreciate you, all you've done for this site, your opinion and experience. I hope you don't get too cynical, though that is easy to do sometimes, especially these days. I like having you around more! :)
 
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It’s still happening.
I was one of those who made a comment or two about maybe putting the brakes on what I thought was gossip regarding an ISU player. I felt it was wrong. Now that a particular player has made an official statement, I guess more can be said. Players after all are in a very real way in the public light. We still need to be careful what we say of them/about them. They are young student athletes giving their best, growing and learning as we all are.

And there is a fine line between gossip and truth.
 

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How does a coach handle situations like that? Just let the team figure it out, police themselves, or step in? How much leash do you give a player that misbehaves in some way?

Second thought and unrelated to this football analogy. It seems likely to maybe even obvious now, that Prohm did not have a good handle on the locker room chemistry of his team?

Had never thought about it until your very question, but it doesn’t seem like he provided framework for good chemistry and leadership in any season except the Naz/Monte/Deonte/
Babb/D-Jax year. Problems every other year McKay, Jacobson, Lard, Wigginton, Rasir. It’s a result of the standards being set by the head man.
 

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Had never thought about it until your very question, but it doesn’t seem like he provided framework for good chemistry and leadership in any season except the Naz/Monte/Deonte/
Babb/D-Jax year. Problems every other year McKay, Jacobson, Lard, Wigginton, Rasir. It’s a result of the standards being set by the head man.
Agree. Seems like in any endeavor, business, sport or other, the attitude and effectiveness of any member of a team, stems from the top, the leader, ultimately.

With your example above, Prohm's what 2nd (and 1st) year, the team was mature and had a certain character already. They practically coached themselves, to a large degree more than likely.
 
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i respect that. But you also must expect people will speculate.
And that's the very problem. A long time ago I came up with this "facts are merely the consensus of opinions". Combine that with "if you hear a lie long enough you begin to believe it's the truth" and you can now see why this world is a tad screwed up. A mature person will consider the source and not spew anything based on 'conjecture'.