What is Sagarin smoking this season?

[ESciGuy]

Just checked his CFB rankings after yesterday's games. He has Iowa @ #3, and five B1G teams in his top 10. We check in at #27 with a #59 SOS. Iowa's SOS is #11. I have generally valued computer rankings over human ones, but they're only as good as the (human-created) algorithms they use. I think Jeffrey needs to update his.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

 

[clonefanpaul]

Just checked his CFB rankings after yesterday's games. He has Iowa @ #3, and five B1G teams in his top 10. We check in at #27 with a #59 SOS. Iowa's SOS is #11. I have generally valued computer rankings over human ones, but they're only as good as the (human-created) algorithms they use. I think Jeffrey needs to update his.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

0-5 Penn State is at 19 and 8-0 Coastal Carolina is at 57. That is all you need to know about how absurd and useless those rankings are.

 

[Prone2Clone]

 

[Cyclonefan710]

Having no non con schedule has broken these computer rankings

 

[Busch__Latte]

This rating system just doesn't work with different teams playing different amount of games. Iowa at #3 just proves it, even Iowa fans would admit that the ranking is dumb.

 

[Prone2Clone]

even Iowa fans would admit that the ranking is dumb.

Tavern Hoks everywhere saying, "Hold my beer."

 

[BCClone]

Tavern Hoks everywhere saying, "Hold my beer."

more like hold my meth.

 

[SplitIdentity]

I support the rankings

 

[Stewo]

I don't give two ***** about computer rankings.

 

[HFCS]

I often prefer sagarin even over the AP but it's completely worthless this year.

 

[CyArob]

Seems legit having Nebraska at 33

 

[Cydkar]

This rating system just doesn't work with different teams playing different amount of games. Iowa at #3 just proves it, even Iowa fans would admit that the ranking is dumb.

hAVe YoU mET aN iOwa fAn?

 

[Sigmapolis]

Sample sizes and little pollination between the conferences to make comparisons are going to make computer rankings really difficult this year. I am normally all for analytics, but I am not sure the sample sizes are going to be there.

 

[mikeiastat]

The sagarin rankings are basically useless this year. When you have groups of teams that are unconnected data sets, that is the very definition of invalid data for this formula. The formula can't be tweaked to include data that doesn't exist.

 

[ESciGuy]

The sagarin rankings are basically useless this year. When you have groups of teams that are unconnected data sets, that is the very definition of invalid data for this formula. The formula can't be tweaked to include data that doesn't exist.

You're right. I was thinking things would improve as more games were played. But almost everything has been within conferences, so there's little chance for "connecting" the data.

The most absurd aspect of his ratings: B1G West is the #1 conference!

 

[Busch__Latte]

9/14 Big 10 teams are in the top 20. The system basically has every big 10 team at the top in SOS.

 

[HFCS]

You're right. I was thinking things would improve as more games were played. But almost everything has been within conferences, so there's little chance for "connecting" the data.

The most absurd aspect of his ratings: B1G West is the #1 conference!

Part of it must be thinking Penn State is good and every team getting a win against Penn State. 0-5 Penn State is still ranked above lots of Big Ten teams with wins.

Even with small sample size and unconnected data I still don't understand how a 0-5 team could be 19th unless it's using mostly the previous year to evaluate that 0-5 team.

Pump 5 wins against a fraudulent #19 team into any conference and yeah that conference will always be #1 by a mile.

Just like ISU, Iowa is legitimately playing better after a very rough start, but teams are cutting through Penn State like a warm knife through butter. Something is wrong with Penn State beyond just a weird covid year. Other typical top 20 programs did not just completely turn into one of the worst teams in FBS.

 

[Shawker]

This rating system just doesn't work with different teams playing different amount of games. Iowa at #3 just proves it, even Iowa fans would admit that the ranking is dumb.

Agreed. Iowa should be #1.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Seems like hash with a little kief sprinkled on top.

 

[Jdk]

Iowa hoks record against the teams they beat so far is 3-11 so frickin impressive