No point in discussing with someone who is using ridiculous hyperbole and comparisons.
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No point in discussing with someone who is using ridiculous hyperbole and comparisons.
Define effective. 20,000 to 60,000 deaths a year sure doesn't sound great to me.
So no one dies from the flu/colds every winter? No one is forcing the players to play that aren't wanting to. No one is forcing the fans to go to the game. Just as no one is forcing you to go outside and no one is forcing you to get in your car to drive.
I know you're a good guy and I appreciate your care/thoughtfulness on this issue. I just happen to disagree and that's okay. Doesn't mean I'm a RWNJ but if it makes you feel better to label me, then fine.
The conclusion at the end of that article is very interesting. How many people that work in the AD are over 40?
"Does this age distribution make Covid-19 less harmful than a disease of similar infectiousness and deadliness that targeted children and young adults would be? Definitely! (I’m 56, so I think I’m allowed to say that.) But it remains a highly infectious disease that for everybody over about 40 is significantly deadlier than anything else they’re likely to encounter during the course of a normal year."
What we do know is that the death rate and long term effects on people 25 and below is very minuscule. I bet most every athlete is willing to take the 99.98% chance of surviving in order to play.
If it's ridiculous then it should be easy to point out why? If that person is unwilling to budge on their thoughts maybe others who read it would be? I'm curious to know why you think its dumb.
Agreed. And if there was an athlete that decided it wasn't a good risk, I'd hope all of us fans would support that person.
I do not have any numbers for this, but considering how often our guys miss games, miss seasons, or play hurt (of various degrees, oftentimes without public reporting of it... if they even tell the trainers or the team doctors they are...), I have to think the physical risks of the game are much higher than the risks of this virus to them.
Young athletes running into each other at top speed in ways that are proven to cause them long-term damage to their brain and spine? In ways that can give them long-term mental health problems and dementia, like a "punch drunk" boxer of yore? Or ways that can paralyze or kill them? Even the "traditional" bone, muscle, and joint injuries they have can cause lifelong hardship and pain before factoring in neurological damage? A sport where we know young men can die on the field? This list is not short --
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/21/heal...-injuries-high-school-college-trnd/index.html
Totally fine.
Slight risk of acquiring a (albeit serious) respiratory disease?
Not acceptable at all. End the sport.
If @Gunnerclone and his risk tolerance for players is so low, then football should not be a thing at all considering the sport that it is and always will be.
Your hyperbole is dumb. And your analysis is dumb. There are football players in the high risk category because of their weight. In addition, there are horrible things that can happen to you outside of death, permanent scarring on the lungs, neurological damage, and they are finding out more and more as the learn about the virus. In addition, these are supposed to be student-athletes, not professionals. Not only do you want to put non-paid student athletes at risk for your own selfish entertainment, you want to put others at risk as well because it isn't like they won't be around other people. Just dumb.
The numbers show that for the entire age group, risk is extremely low. That is including all the obese people in that age group. The typical 300+ lb college lineman isn't your typical 300+ lb sedentary person.
You came out of your secure isolation chamber to post THIS? Shouldn't you be UV lighting your gameboy, or chasing down people outside all by themselves without masks and calling them out?
Do you have some information on this? I've never heard weight as a direct indicator to high risk. I've heard obesity is though.
Also, you are framing this from a point of the athletes are forced to go back. Are they? I honestly don't know if they'll lose their scholarship or not if they don't return.
so we’ve got the car accidents...check.
We’ve got the “it’s just the flu”...check
And now we’ve got the...but football injuries while playing football is a risk!...check
we’ve got all the conditions met for a safe space thread!
It's not a hyperbole at all. It's the actual truth. the chances of dying from corona, in that age range, are far less than getting struck by lightening.
Weight? Come one, these are 18-24 year old ATHLETES. They are the best shape of their lives.
There are horrible things that can happen to you outside of death with just playing the game of football, so get a better argument.
Go live in a hole the rest of your life is you're so damn afraid of the outside world.
Yeah I think that article does a pretty good job of pointing out that the disease is in fact serious. We should not take this lightly, however the risk of young people dying from this thing is incredibly low. I'm far more worried about the coaches, trainers, media members, administration members than I am the student athletes.
"I cannot address these points so I am just going to pose."
Football is dangerous. If you really had the courage of your convictions about the safety of the players, then you should not be watching it at all... vote with your eyeballs and your wallet... and you should be chastising us for enjoying it when young men put themselves at preposterous risk of serious long-term injury or death in playing it.
But you don't. You just want to take cheap shots.
Looks like you still watch it, too, considering you've got Pope Urban as your avatar.
