Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

[aeroclone]

I agree with much of what you said. But we aren’t doing much, if any of the above. We have no mask mandates (we should) and the President has said we don’t need more testing. And if we aren’t getting increased testing, we sure as hell aren’t getting significant contact tracing. The only impactful thing is that we are requiring places to operate at reduced capacities.

So why is it that we all KNOW we need to be doing more but we aren’t?

I guess the silver lining here is that people don't need to be told to do something by the government to do the right things for themselves. The churches are allowed to open, but most haven't. Many have discussed in this thread that their employers are planning work from home arrangements well beyond state restrictions, my employer is doing the same. There is poling out showing a slight majority of Americans wearing masks even without mandates, and many businesses are implementing mask requirements. Air travel isn't banned, but traffic is down 96% anyway.

It would be nice to see consistent messaging through the levels of government on this, and the take rates on some of these things would be better with the government coming along, but it is far from all or nothing. I think most people, businesses, and organizations will do the right things regardless. The people out protesting all this stuff and making a bunch of noise are just a loud, visible, yet small minority of the country.

 

[CycloneVet]

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...rker-shortages-meatpacking-plants/3085932001/

And so it begins.

 

[CycloneVet]

Oh man, this makes me furious.

Why?

 

[madguy30]

Even without a vaccine if something like that antibody treatment turned out to work it would still be a gamechanger for this thing.

Finding out where immunity is would also help if antibody tests become more reliable and accessible. How many antibodies are needed for protection, for how long, etc.

I'm not sure how they study that--do people who've recovered volunteer to be infected again to see if there's protection?

 

[Clonehomer]

Finding out where immunity is would also help if antibody tests become more reliable and accessible. How many antibodies are needed for protection, for how long, etc.

I'm not sure how they study that--do people who've recovered volunteer to be infected again to see if there's protection?

I'm sure they can use the medical field as a study. We've had enough infected, recovered, and continue to be exposed that I'd think you could get enough data to get a high degree of confidence.

 

[CTTB78]

I'm sure they can use the medical field as a study. We've had enough infected, recovered, and continue to be exposed that I'd think you could get enough data to get a high degree of confidence.

Is there reported data out there on the percentage of positives that were asymptomatic?

 

[wxman1]

Well my 93 year old grandma that lives at a facility where there are a dozen cases has a fever and will be tested in the morning.

 

[GrappleCy]

Is there reported data out there on the percentage of positives that were asymptomatic?

Every time I see something about that it's always about the number of people who have it but aren't showing symptoms on the day that there was a mass test event at their work. I have never seen a follow up article where they went back 2 weeks later to find out how many of those people eventually developed symptoms.

Which, to be honest, seems crazy to me that info isn't out there or at least not easy to find. That seems like pretty important info and there were situations like that aircraft carrier where they could have done that pretty easily.

 

[madguy30]

Latest “feel good” story:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-16256-y

So, uh, is that, like, good and stuff?

(I couldn't follow)

 

[Clone83]

Fat could be helping coronavirus to infiltrate cells
- headline at the London Times website, Wed., May 6, linked here:
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/05/fat-cells-produce-large-amounts-of.html

"... pointing to a potential explanation for why obese people are more severely affected.... Fat cells in obese or diabetic patients produce higher amounts of angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (Ace2) than those in other people. It is the protein that the coronavirus binds to in the bodies of infected people, they said.... [F]at might therefore 'serve as a viral reservoir.'"

... Certain types of drugs used in diabetes might be repurposed to fight Covid-19 as a result of the findings, the scientists said. “Weight loss per se” could also be useful.

... In a paper published in the journal Obesity, researchers from Germany and the United States said that fat and other similar cells “may play an important role in the pathogenic response to Covid-19”.

 

[AgronAlum]

Getting both the nasal test and the antibody test on Friday. They say I’ll know within 48 hours. This should be interesting.

 

[madguy30]

Getting both the nasal test and the antibody test on Friday. They say I’ll know within 48 hours. This should be interesting.

Both? That is interesting.

Symptoms or just able to get tested?

Hoping for the best.

 

[BCClone]

Well my 93 year old grandma that lives at a facility where there are a dozen cases has a fever and will be tested in the morning.

Praying for her to come back negative.

 

[BCClone]

Minnesota loosening things up next week.

 

[AgronAlum]

Both? That is interesting.

Symptoms or just able to get tested?

Hoping for the best.

Yep. Getting the nasal swab and drawing blood for the antibody test.

No symptoms but able to get tested through my employer due to some circumstances that lead to a higher risk of infection.

 

[BCClone]

Yep. Getting the nasal swab and drawing blood for the antibody test.

No symptoms but able to get tested through my employer.

One Dr told my wife that the $60 test is decent but the other one you might as well flip a coin and then put the 100-120 bucks in your pocket because that is about how accurate it is.

 

[madguy30]

Yep. Getting the nasal swab and drawing blood for the antibody test.

No symptoms but able to get tested through my employer due to some circumstances that lead to a higher risk of infection.

Well at least the tests are available and accessible.

 

[awd4cy]

Minnesota loosening things up next week.

Should be plenty of outrage on here.

 

[AgronAlum]

One Dr told my wife that the $60 test is decent but the other one you might as well flip a coin and then put the 100-120 bucks in your pocket because that is about how accurate it is.

I have no idea what test it is that they’re using. It’s being administered by the IDPH and the National Guard.

 

[Acylum]

So, uh, is that, like, good and stuff?

(I couldn't follow)

It would be a helluva stopgap measure until an actual vaccine is available.
As you scroll down, the first set of graphs is the important part.