I have no idea what either or their ceilings are. Toussaint has a better baseline and has shown he can play at this level quicker than Grill. We'll have to evaluate it at the end of both of their careers. Right now, Toussaint is better than Grill and there's no argument to be made. LolAs I keep saying, he could end up good. I do think he will develop from where he is at (hard to be worse really). This started as Twins saying Grill has a higher ceiling than Toussaint. One is a contributor on a top 25 BB team. The other is a bench warmer on a team that barely has Big12 capable players on it. Do you agree with Twins, is Grill some high ceiling player? I'm not talking a Sr who finally contributes 8 PPG, I'm talking a good player who averages 10+ PPG for his career?
Knowing how these types of things work, they'll both average the same amount of points at the end of their careers and there will be an endless debate on who's better and the thread will be tons of pages long lol.