Star Wars episode 9: The Rise of Skywalker

Scruff

Well-Known Member
Mar 11, 2008
1,022
1,426
113
Coralville, IA
I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. The entire 9 movies feel more complete to me now, because I came to a realization. Star wars was never a story about a hero named Skywalker. It was always a villain story about Palpatine. The originals show him at the height of his power. The prequels show how he got in power. The sequels show his true demise.
 

CycloneWanderer

Well-Known Member
Nov 4, 2007
8,337
5,687
113
Wandering
I really didn't like how many significant events were reversed, sometimes almost immediately.

The emperor is dead - but HE'S ALIVE!
The entire Millennium Falcon is on fire - and now it's good
Rey is a confirmed nobody - until she isn't
Chewy dies - oh wait, he just got on an unseen other shuttle...
Kylo takes a lethal blow from Rey - until he is healed seconds later.
C-3P0 loses his memory permanently and much drama was made of it - oh wait R2D2 had a recent backup.
Giant lightning hits all the rebel ships - but no lasting damage was done.
Leia spends ... months? ... trying to cobble together a resistance fleet- Lando does it in hours.
Rey and Ben get the life sucked out of them and die - wait, Ben isn't dead - oop, force pushed he's back dead - Rey's alive - nevermind, dead again part 2 - Ben's back! - Rey's back! - kiss? - 3rd death for Ben turns him into a pancake.

This many walk-backs and "gotcha" moments is a part of what killed the movie for me. I cared when Chewy "died." After his miraculous survival all the "big momentously bad things" stopped being dramatic. A movie can only trick me into caring so many times before I just stop trying to.
 
Dec 16, 2019
89
89
8
28
I'm not a huge Star Wars nerd but have seen all of the films. This is one is honestly mediocre and was some what predictable. I knew Kylo would rebel against the Sith the whole time even though he was trying to get Ray to join for the past 2 movies. It wasn't terrible but it isn't as good as the other Star Wars.
 

Rogue52

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Oct 20, 2006
8,968
3,606
113
Cedar Rapids, IA
I'm not sure if i've said it here or not, but breaking down the idea that one needs to be a rigid jedi or otherwise 'falls to the dark side' is where i thought the series was going to go

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the intended story arc and it got scrapped for whatever reason. Disney hinted at it in Rebels and The Last Jedi.
 

jctisu

Well-Known Member
Jun 11, 2017
8,726
10,674
113
As more and more fan reviews filter in, the Rotten Tomatoes fan score is still remaining at 86%, right there with both The Force Awakens and Rogue One, which is pretty high. Obviously, this movie will only further the critic vs fan debate of all this, which was really pervasive through all of TLJ, but in the opposite way. Obviously, there is intrinsically going to be a difference between how critics, many times non-fans look at a particular movie and a fan, or the general movie going audience is going to look at things. This has always been there and is a good perspective to have as we analyze movies. However, one thing people also need to consider is how many of those critics all live in Los Angeles (its kind of crazy), all go to the same critic screenings of the movie, and all somewhat know each other to some extent in a community type of way. Therefore, there is inevitably going to be some level of bubbled group-think going on between all of them whether they realize it or want to admit it or not. We've all been there. In those scenarios, its not exactly cool to be too different than your peers, especially when any community you are in has a tendency to jump down your throat about a differing opinion. It just is what it is. Surely in our current political environment, we might at least know a little bit what group think looks like right? Keep in mind, there is such thing as fan group-think as well, so maybe we shouldn't get too high on our horses either. Regardless, when looking at numbers such as Rotten Tomatoes for these types of things, people do need to recognize all facets that can feed into those figures.
In the end I am one of those fans that doesn't pay attention to a single thing a movie critic has to say. I am almost completely opposite of any critic's overall feeling on a movie 90% of the time. Movies for me are supposed to be fun and take you away from the real world, and that's what this movie did. Now, there are movies that are made specifically that are trying to be masterpieces in the things a critic is needed for. I just personally think people should stop giving movie critics that much time and attention because from what I see, the majority of fans disagree with a lot of them on these big blockbuster movies. I get caught over-analyzing movies just like anybody, but there are points we go way too far and just need to reset and say, "Hey, did I enjoy my time at the movie, and did this particular movie I just got done seeing make me smile, laugh, cry, feel emotion, etc." If it does that, than in general you can get past some things that don't quite make sense or flow. Just my two cents on the whole movie critics and having any validity on how I myself should enjoy a movie or not.
 

CycloneNorth

Well-Known Member
Mar 29, 2010
3,879
1,561
113
Nashville, TN
In the end I am one of those fans that doesn't pay attention to a single thing a movie critic has to say. I am almost completely opposite of any critic's overall feeling on a movie 90% of the time. Movies for me are supposed to be fun and take you away from the real world, and that's what this movie did. Now, there are movies that are made specifically that are trying to be masterpieces in the things a critic is needed for. I just personally think people should stop giving movie critics that much time and attention because from what I see, the majority of fans disagree with a lot of them on these big blockbuster movies. I get caught over-analyzing movies just like anybody, but there are points we go way too far and just need to reset and say, "Hey, did I enjoy my time at the movie, and did this particular movie I just got done seeing make me smile, laugh, cry, feel emotion, etc." If it does that, than in general you can get past some things that don't quite make sense or flow. Just my two cents on the whole movie critics and having any validity on how I myself should enjoy a movie or not.

Agree 100%. It’s Star Wars. All I really need to know is if it’s going to entertain my kids.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Aclone

AllInForISU

Well-Known Member
Nov 24, 2012
4,622
4,930
113
A big reason for all of that is the amount of options available. In 1977 the vast majority of homes had the large networks and possibly a local public television station. The ability to wait for a movie to "come out on cable" was pretty much non-existent. If you wanted to see the movie you had to go to the theater. If you missed it there you were likely waiting for several years before you would ever be able to see it on network TV.

Not only that, but a VCR was almost 1300 dollars in 1977. Not an option for most people. Like you said, you either saw it in the theater or you didn't see it.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: VeloClone

3GenClone

Well-Known Member
Jun 28, 2009
6,432
4,077
113
Columbus, OH
Just got back from seeing it. I thought it was pretty good. I had a big grin on my face for most of it. Not my favorite in the new trilogy, but it definitely helps solidify the new trilogy as better than the prequels. It’s a great end to the Skywalker storyline and a great springboard to more original movies set in the Star Wars galaxy.
 

dahliaclone

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2007
16,174
24,997
113
Minneapolis
Thought it was fine. Nothing great. Personally I think these final trilogy movies were pretty ho hom overal. But I actually loved Rogue One. I’d give this a 6/10.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: 3GenClone

Bader

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jul 25, 2007
7,570
4,660
113
Ankeny
Wife and I just got back. Really enjoyed it a lot. Best of the sequels to me. I’m glad Leia Luke and Han have all had their own heroic goodbyes in the 3 movies.

I’m glad Denis Lawson decided to make an appearance in the end, I know he said he wasn’t interested when they were shooting TFA. I still want to see him playing some kind of fleet officer in a galactic civil war series
 

Aclone

Well-Known Member
Dec 14, 2007
26,893
23,403
113
Des Moines, Ia.
Rey didn't end up with Finn was my biggest surprise
So...you missed that she had the hots for Ben Solo all along?

I loved this movie. There were a couple of rough edges—working in Carrie Fisher appearances—but they had to work with the stray snippets they had. Better than more CGI.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: tzjung

Rogue52

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Oct 20, 2006
8,968
3,606
113
Cedar Rapids, IA
Also our entire group wonder what it was that Finn was supposed to tell Rey. Did they ever reveal that?

Assumed that he loved her?

That’s what I said. Just seems strange that they never fully said what that was. Hinted at yes but felt like a loose end. Just curious if we missed something.

In an interview yesterday, JJ Abrams said it was to tell her that he is force sensitive. It is alluded to a few times in movie as he senses various things.

Seems like a dumb thing to tell her as you are about to die.

I assume this fact will be used in future expanded universe content.
 

Rabbuk

Well-Known Member
Mar 1, 2011
56,961
46,117
113
So...you missed that she had the hots for Ben Solo all along?

I loved this movie. There were a couple of rough edges—working in Carrie Fisher appearances—but they had to work with the stray snippets they had. Better than more CGI.
I just assumed that was some sort of force du-ad boner thing going on