NFL: David Irving takes a stand

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o_O :eek:

I actually agree with the stance he's taking, even if I question his decision to pick that over the money (though I do not know what it feels like to have your body go through that).

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""So basically guys, I quit," he said. "They want to talk about a suspension and all this other nonsense. I'm outta there. I'm not doing this sh-t no more."

He went on to explain why he's choosing to continue doing the drug over what he feels is a conspiratorial regime in the NFL front office.

"I guess the same thing that'll make a little kid sip some liquor, or do whatever," he said. "The same reason an adult would choose to do it. It felt great. As a kid, it was one thing, but now that you're older and you do what I do — you hurt.

"I got two shoulder surgeries. Everyone was mad at me about my damn injuries. Y'all know I was in a damn cast? I was on crutches? I was in a scooter?

"I go through a lot of pain. I don't miss games unless it's physically impossible for me to play. ...Nothing helps better. ...It's much better than that opiate sh-t. ...I'd rather use something natural."

"At this point, he again waved the marijuana at the camera, knowing full well what could come of the video. At the end, before signing off, he essentially said as much."
 

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I’ll never forget the Jerome Bettis video one of the networks showed during their pregame show about 20 years ago. He could barely get out of bed during the week, his wife had to put his socks on for him, and he could hardly walk between games.

This was at the end of his career but what these guys do their body is hard to comprehend.

Irving obviously knew the consequences of what he was doing so I don’t feel bad for him but I completely understand.
 

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Honest question. Is there a reason Weed is still illegal? I mean isn't most of the country in favor of making it legal? The UFC finally decided to not suspend guys for weed in their system anymore because it's a pain relief and not a substance that improve performance. Why is the NFL still trying to act like weed helps you perform?
 

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Honest question. Is there a reason Weed is still illegal? I mean isn't most of the country in favor of making it legal? The UFC finally decided to not suspend guys for weed in their system anymore because it's a pain relief and not a substance that improve performance. Why is the NFL still trying to act like weed helps you perform?

Because big pharmaceutical companies have way more lobbyists (they do not want an alternative on the market that they can't control).
 

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Honest question. Is there a reason Weed is still illegal? I mean isn't most of the country in favor of making it legal? The UFC finally decided to not suspend guys for weed in their system anymore because it's a pain relief and not a substance that improve performance. Why is the NFL still trying to act like weed helps you perform?


Is David Irving a knucklehead who happens smokes pot? Or does smoking pot make David Irving into a bigger knucklehead (in addition to helping him with his pain)? Probably both.
 

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Honest question. Is there a reason Weed is still illegal? I mean isn't most of the country in favor of making it legal? The UFC finally decided to not suspend guys for weed in their system anymore because it's a pain relief and not a substance that improve performance. Why is the NFL still trying to act like weed helps you perform?
Because old white men that were elected still believe it is evil.
 

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David Irving and Royce White are arguably the 2 most talented players in their Sport at Iowa State, and they both take "controversial" stands that end their American Pro careers. Crazy stuff.
 
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Honest question. Is there a reason Weed is still illegal? I mean isn't most of the country in favor of making it legal? The UFC finally decided to not suspend guys for weed in their system anymore because it's a pain relief and not a substance that improve performance. Why is the NFL still trying to act like weed helps you perform?
Three primary reasons, God, old people mentality and the pharma lobby.

The NFL is definitely the one behind on this. I can only assume they are trying to protect some sort of public image they believe in that isn't actually real among viewers. The viewership won't give a s*** if weed isn't banned anymore and it won't change the game in any meaningful way whatsoever. Just more antiquated thinking.
 

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Three primary reasons, God, old people mentality and the pharma lobby.

The NFL is definitely the one behind on this. I can only assume they are trying to protect some sort of public image they believe in that isn't actually real among viewers. The viewership won't give a s*** if weed isn't banned anymore and it won't change the game in any meaningful way whatsoever. Just more antiquated thinking.

I think the NFL fanbase is a little more antiquated in their thoughts than you give them credit for.
 

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I don't blame David at all especially if he already is feeling the toll the sport takes on your body. Big pharma and the NFL are absolutely in bed with each other on it as they continue to push all the terribly addicting pills on the players. Its their choice to play or not play so good for him even if he is a knucklehead.
 
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Is this a competitive balance issue with the NFL? Not all states have legalized it. So would the teams in legalized states have an advantage over teams in states that have not? Opioids are legal everywhere with a prescription.

This is the only leg I can see the NFL stand on. Otherwise, they're driving their employees to opioids because marijuana is restricted.
 
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Totally agree that weed should be legal. With that said, I'm not sure this is a wise move.

He was making 3 million a year in the NFL. Just stay off the weed for a couple more years and he could retire at 28 years old and be set for life. At 28 he would not have to work another day of his life and smoke weed every day. I really hope he was wise with the money he made while in the NFL.

Just to give you an idea

If he saved $8m, he could retire and have $175,000/year for the rest of his life without working another day. That's with a 4% return on investment and 2.9% inflation.
 
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Totally agree that weed should be legal. With that said, I'm not sure this is a wise move.

He was making 3 million a year in the NFL. Just stay off the weed for a couple more years and he could retire at 28 years old and be set for life. At 28 he would not have to work another day of his life and smoke weed every day. I really hope he was wise with the money he made while in the NFL.

I always think that every time I see guys do this. Just do the dance for even another year and save every dime you can....then probably never have to do anything other than smoke weed and play Madden if that's what you want to do.
 
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Because big pharmaceutical companies have way more lobbyists (they do not want an alternative on the market that they can't control).

Exactly. Give big tobacco/pharma enough time to gobble up the weed market before we start seeing the heavy lobbyist money pouring in to change the govt perspective. They are in it for the money and it'll be legal as soon as they know how turn it into profits for them.
 

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I think the NFL fanbase is a little more antiquated in their thoughts than you give them credit for.

I tend to agree with this although I think to some degree it is a vocal minority who skews that image. With more people choosing to watch games from their home than at a multi billion dollar stadium I think the NFL is sensitive about losing any fans at all.

In reality though, like the Kap kneeling issue I think the NFL should call the fans bluff. NFL fans aren't going to give up on their teams that easily and the negative PR around it makes them look worse in my opinion. With growing concerns of CTE, I think they need to do more for the players to improve their image and I think that would help the NFL overall.
 
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I think the NFL fanbase is a little more antiquated in their thoughts than you give them credit for.

I kind of doubt that. I mean you are talking about a group of people that love to sit on a couch and eat snacks and watch a game on TV. Kind seems like the target demo. This is a. Board problem and probably some concern about legalities.
 
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