ajcksu82 posted this elsewhere regarding B12 coaches ...

[surly]

1. Bill Self: 654-201. 1 NCAA Champion. 3 Final Fours. 10 Elite Eights. 18 conference titles (2x WAC, 2x Big Ten, 14x Big 12). 9 conference tournament titles (1x Big Ten, 8x Big 12)
2. Bob Huggins: 845-341. 2 Final Fours. 4 Elite Eights. 11 conference titles (1x OVC, 2x Great Midwest, 8x CUSA). 10 conference tournament titles (1x OVC, 4x Great Midwest, 1x Big East, 4x CUSA)
3. Lon Kruger: 619-395. 2 Final Fours. 3 Elite Eights. 1 conference title (1x Big Ten). 2 conference tournament titles (2x MWC)
4. Bruce Weber: 438-235. 1 Final Four. 2 Elite Eights. 5 conference titles (2x MVC, 2x Big Ten, 1x Big 12). 1 conference tournament title (1x Big Ten)
5. Jamie Dixon: 373-150. 1 Elite Eight. 2 conference titles (2x Big East). 1 conference tournament title (1x Big East)
6. Scott Drew: 318-205. 2 Elite Eights. 1 conference tournament title (1x Mid-Con)
7. Shaka Smart: 213-106. 1 Final Four. 1 Elite Eight. 2 conference tournament titles (1x CAA, 1x A10)
8. Steve Prohm. 164-70. 2 conference titles (2x OVC). 2 conference tournament title (1x OVC, 1x Big 12)
9. Chris Beard: 141-54. 1 conference title (1x Sun Belt). 1 conference tournament title (1x Sun Belt)
10. Mike Boyton Jr: 21-15

 

[cmjh10]

Bruce Weber is older than Steve Prohm? Wow, didnt know that.

 

[3GenClone]

That certainly looks impressive top to bottom, but wouldn’t this be similar across all the P5 (& Big East) conferences? Patrick Ewing @ Georgetown would be the first name I could think of at the bottom of the list using the criteria above, but do you think he’s the worst coach in the Big East? Even if it doesn’t work out at Georgetown he’s going to be a candidate for NBA jobs for the next couple of seasons.

 

[surly]

One can draw conclusions however one chooses about this data. It's just a set of facts that may or may not be interesting to readers.

 

[Acylum]

Shocking Surly would come to this board and post this. Shocking I’m telling you.

 

[3GenClone]

One can draw conclusions however one chooses about this data. It's just a set of facts that may or may not be interesting to readers.

Another interesting thing is Huggins at #2 despite not having any Big 12 regular season or conference tournament titles, and almost 200 more wins than Self. The inevitable 30 for 30 on Huggins is going to be fascinating.

 

[JM4CY]

I put Phrom at four and not feel damn bit bad about it.

 

[JM4CY]

Beard could move up that list for sure.

 

[JP4CY]

Another interesting thing is Huggins at #2 despite not having any Big 12 regular season or conference tournament titles, and almost 200 more wins than Self. The inevitable 30 for 30 on Huggins is going to be fascinating.

3/4s of it could be interviewing bartenders.

 

[heitclone]

How can Smart be anything but last? Does any coach do less with what they have? He's 50-50 at UT despite a top 20 and two top 10 recruiting classes.

 

[chuckd4735]

Who is Ajcksu82 and why do we care?

 

[surly]

How can Smart be anything but last? Does any coach do less with what they have? He's 50-50 at UT despite a top 20 and two top 10 recruiting classes.

The list is about facts, not observations, albeit I agree with your premise. He's like the basketball version of Charlie Strong.

Ajcksu82 posted the original data. I always try to credit people who bring interesting stuff - not into plagiarism.

 

[heitclone]

The list is about facts, not observations, albeit I agree with your premise. He's like the basketball version of Charlie Strong.

Ajcksu82 posted the original data. I always try to credit people who bring interesting stuff - not into plagiarism.

He's a .500 coach at the p5 level despite having highly ranked recruiting classes. Are those not facts?

 

[Clonefan32]

Rearrange Drew, Weber and Dixon and you have a list of who has been around the Big 12 the longest. Congrats on that.

 

[Bader]

Who the **** counts an elite 8 and final 4 from the same tourney? Bruuuuuuuce has 1 Final Four and 1 Elite Eight, Shaka has 1 Final Four, Lon has 2 Final Fours and 1 Elite Eight, and so on.

 

[surly]

Who the **** counts an elite 8 and final 4 from the same tourney? Bruuuuuuuce has 1 Final Four and 1 Elite Eight, Shaka has 1 Final Four, Lon has 2 Final Fours and 1 Elite Eight, and so on.

E8's are noteworthy in and of themselves. Does ISU hang E8 banners? Can't make the F4 without. I'm not sure why you're angry.

 

[jsb]

Honestly I never hated Kansas State until I started reading surlys posts. Well done, surly.

 

[surly]

Honestly I never hated Kansas State until I started reading surlys posts. Well done, surly.

WTH?

 

[Bader]

E8's are noteworthy in and of themselves. Does ISU hang E8 banners? Can't make the F4 without. I'm not sure why you're angry.

ISU hangs a banner for the furthest point made in a tournament. An Elite 8 appearance implies the team had both a Sweet 16 and tournament berth. Also, not angry it's just a dumb way to denote accomplishments

 

[cyfanatic13]

Looks to me like Mr. acjksu82 just posted the list in how many games each coach has won order and then moved Self from #2 to #1. Not a whole lot of research into that list. Like someone else said, basically has them ranked based on who has been around the longest. Dumb thread from Surly, per usual