A question about attendance/capacity

[Al_4_State]

Since we have somewhere around 46,000 actual seats, is that the # required for a "sellout"? I mean, we get over capacity crowds on a regular basis, and most of our games anymore have butts in all the seats, but yet Hawk fans like to say that if we're under 55,000 (a # only reached in recent years) it isn't a real sellout. It seems to me that filling up all the seats is a logical sellout, because, we could hypothetically keep allowing bodies into the gates and have an unlimited capacity. I know this is kind of pointless, but I'm just curious. In my opinion, Jack was sold out last Thursday.

 

[isuno1fan]

It's a gray area. The AD massages it as they see fit.

 

[Cyclone62]

Up until 2 years ago I think we listed 46K as a sell out. Since then it's been the 55K mark.

 

[CycloneWanderer]

I say we keep saying we are not sold out so we do not discourage people from seeking tickets.

 

[CyFan987]

Good question. Never really thought about it. But I agree that a sell out now a days is probably 55,000 or more.

 

[superdorf]

I say we keep saying we are not sold out so we do not discourage people from seeking tickets.

This is actually a good idea.

 

[jumbopackage]

I think the previous 46k number was a bit misleading, since that didn't count the hillsides, which we do count in the attendance numbers.

even with 47k+ that we had last week, we still had plenty of empty seats (though they may have been sold).

I don't have a problem with 55k being a sell-out. That's about as much as JTS can fit, and so, to me, that's a sell-out.

I don't like playing the hawkeye game with our sellout numbers. It's a pretty meaningless statistic, I think, since teams do all sorts of crazy things to sell out (i.e. Nebraska essentially giving away tickets).

The bottom line is revenue for the program. Whatever generates the most of that is what really matters.

 

[83Clone]

To me it's a non-issue. We have 10K +/- in standing room only "seats" which aren't really "seats" but are available for sale. So the antagonist will say we have never really sold out a game, even though we averaged more fans than we have seats last year.

So you can make it whatever you want. The key is just be there

 

[CyFan987]

To me it's a non-issue. We have 10K +/- in standing room only "seats" which aren't really "seats" but are available for sale. So the antagonist will say we have never really sold out a game, even though we averaged more fans than we have seats last year.

So you can make it whatever you want. The key is just be there

Agreed and I will be there every game!

 

[CycloneErik]

I'll be there, too, unless I'm in Jamaica!

My tickets are accounted for by people that will be atttending, though.

 

[CyFan987]

Good to hear!

 

[Al_4_State]

To me it's a non-issue. We have 10K +/- in standing room only "seats" which aren't really "seats" but are available for sale. So the antagonist will say we have never really sold out a game, even though we averaged more fans than we have seats last year.

So you can make it whatever you want. The key is just be there

I can handle that...

 

[HandSanitizer]

I think if the sell out all the physical seats then its a true sell out. We get an additional 10,000 seats with the Hills so that number helps recruiting and selling the stadium etc.. Its easy to sell expanding the stadium when you have people sitting on hills though. Your not asking for more people to come to the game really. Your just making them sit in a physical seat and possibly not allowing the north hills.

 

[CyFan987]

Does anyone know approximately how many people the stadium will hold after phase II?

 

[CyForPresident]

JTS had 46,500 permanent seats before the west side expansion. JP said tonight that 2,000 seats were lost from the construction, I've heard 2,200 specifically. That would put permanent seating around 44,000. JP said that we can top out at 53,000, but 54,000 seems possible.

JP also said that there would be around 55,000 permanent seats when the south endzone is done which would put around 60,000 total. This is if we do the full double deck south endzone.

 

[CyFan987]

JTS had 46,500 permanent seats before the west side expansion. JP said tonight that 2,000 seats were lost from the construction, I've heard 2,200 specifically. That would put permanent seating around 44,000. JP said that we can top out at 53,000, but 54,000 seems possible.

JP also said that there would be around 55,000 permanent seats when the south endzone is done which would put around 60,000 total. This is if we do the full double deck south endzone.

The south endzone will only hold 5,000 even with two levels?

 

[CyForPresident]

The south endzone will only hold 5,000 even with two levels?

No, it will hold 10,000-12,000.

44,000 pre-existing permanent seats+ 11,000 new south endzone permanent seats=55,000 permanent seats

55,000+5,000 north hillside=60,000

 

[IcSyU]

The south endzone will only hold 5,000 even with two levels?

You're replacing seating that's there already with permanent seating and just covering the hills...second deck is extra seating...

 

[CyFan987]

Woops forgot for a moment that 55,000 is including hill seats