McKay not traveling to OSU
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Small ball won't cut it. We already have teams driving at will for uncontested layups. Matt and Monte can't be expected to guard 3's and layups. We were killed by WVU on the boards with McKay on the team(our #1 rebounder). The ORB on the missed freethrow was what cost us the game - WVU only had 2 guys - very very bad rebounding. IMHO our coaches have mishandled the bench in key games that we've lost. Edozy sat when Niang was hurt. Thomas sat against UAB. Now Carter can't get a couple minutes with only 2 forwards left playing? At this point, I would like to see McKay with a different haircut . He is not better, more stylish, or more attractive than anyone else. This is not a glamour show. He is just a another college student in baggy underwear chasing a rubber ball.
If he's been a problem since the season started, why are we waiting until now to deal with it? The kid is a unique talent and it's such a waste if the coaches can't get through to him.
1. I'm sure they've trying to deal with it.
2. We are doing a lot of ******** about him, but as recently as Oklahoma and TCU (I think), McKay was really, really good.
Please, quit putting CFH on such a high pedestal. I love what the guy did for ISU MBB, and that he was able to bring it back to relevance, but too many forget that there were some bad things that happened during his time here too.
I don't know how you can make the statement that CFH's teams got better as the years went along, with last year's team and ultimate failure so fresh in everyone's mind, including the players (at least we hope). To act like CFH handled all player problems well and only formed cohesive teams is to ignore what happened just last year with BDJ. Unless any of us were on that team or in that locker room, we will never know what happened, but obviously it wasn't all good.
To put this on Prohm is just ridiculous with what we know at this point. Yes, if McKay was having issues from day one, then they should have been addressed, but we don't know for sure if that was the case, or what Prohm may have tried to deal with them. We do know that McKay has an injury, is likely frustrated with his play, and that all may contribute to this situation much more than the fact that CFH is no longer the coach. If a player cannot adjust to a new coach, then that is as much on the player as it is on the coach, imho.
It looks to me like McKay is injured, frustrated by what that does to his quality of play, and maybe the struggles of this team, although I would question his true concerns for his team and his teammates in light of his recent behavior. He's a senior. He needs to show some leadership and maturity here, not the coach.
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1. Fred's teams had the same ******* problems every year. They lost plenty of games that everyone on here thought they shouldn't.
2. This team hasn't gotten worse all year. A week ago, we were riding a winning streak. This week we lost to 2 top 15 teams. It isn't the worst thing in the world (yet).
Re: Not traveling to OSU??
yes I know. you fail to connect the dots however. and you don't know how that shuckster operates. It's an excuse to come back here to show his ugly mug
The next blue chipper here in Iowa high schools will be recruited by Roy, and he can point to Paige, Barnes, Heinrich, Collison...as a reason to consider UNC
and a promise he'll schedule a game here. It's always about Roy.
Good lord, he offered Woodbury just to keeps his ties here active. You really thought Woodbury would of played much for UNC?
yes I know. you fail to connect the dots however. and you don't know how that shuckster operates. It's an excuse to come back here to show his ugly mug
The next blue chipper here in Iowa high schools will be recruited by Roy, and he can point to Paige, Barnes, Heinrich, Collison...as a reason to consider UNC
and a promise he'll schedule a game here. It's always about Roy.
Good lord, he offered Woodbury just to keeps his ties here active. You really thought Woodbury would of played much for UNC?
Having 5 men on the floor giving everything for each other and playing as a team is what we need and WILL win games. "Not the size of the dog in the fight, " etc ...... McKay isn't playing for the team and is pulling the rope in the wrong direction.
Forget size. At this moment we are better moving forward with Georges, Monte, Nader, Thomas, Burton, Ashton, Cooke and possibly Carter.
Currently McKay is neither, on the same page, nor is he in the same book.
Fred did not always do this. The most recent example was BDJ. McKay needs to grow up. He is a senior and I am pretty sure CSP was looking to the seniors for leadership. He has done anything but be a leader. I am sure CSP let it go this long because of our expectations and our lack of depth. If the team as a whole finally took issue with it, it is possible we will play much harder without him. If CSP had suspended McKay in Dec, do you think the team would have supported it.
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This is the question. It seems Prohm was able to earn the trust of most of the players, this is the situation that hasn't been resolved and apparently Prohm finally drew the line.
In so.e respects it is easy to say it should have been dealt with earlier, but it was a unique situation. I am sure Prohm felt he'd come around, but the lack of effort at end of WV game and refusing to practice were as it turns out the final straw so to speak.
I didn't ******* bring him up. The previous poster said that Fred's teams didn't have these problems and I pointed out that they did.
But, yes, I put a lot of the problems this team is having on Fred. He was able to coddle the team and it worked for him. But then he left the team that he coddled and screwed them over. Poor Prohm couldn't win.
Jameel isn't even CSP's recruit, so he's been learning about these players on the fly, PLEASE, don't blame this on him. Not having Jameel definitely hurts, but what hurts more is having a player on the court who doesn't care. This team needs Jameel, it doesn't need Manziel. I hope the old Jameel comes back, his team needs him.
Didn't read entire thread, so forgive me if already mentioned. Do we have a "Wesley Johnson" situation here? Is McKay frustrated by the inability to diagnose his "injury" and acting out like a child because he is being told he is fine and just needs to get back out there and play? Not saying that this could be the entire issue, just wondering if it's a contributing aspect to his drama queen behavoir as of late. Thoughts?
1. Obviously we have no ******* idea if his injury is misdiagnosed. I sort of doubt it.
2. I'm sure that Prohm and the staff would be more than willing to rest Jameel for parts of practice. But if the stories are to be believed he really refused to practice at all.
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