List of potential replacements should Fred Hoiberg leave
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I honestly think Otz could do the job. I think Jeff H. is my first choice, but Otz has been a GREAT recruiter and has really embraced the game and coaching. I think he has the personality to connect with players and game prep. In game management? Who knows. To me, he actually does seem like the type of guy that, if he had success, would stick out at ISU versus leaving (i know, he left once, but I think that was part of his plan to round out his resume as he continued to improve his chances at bigger jobs).
My only concern is that we don't get the "Bruce Webber" situation...he "co-won" the big 12 his first year and probably was given more credit than was deserved and we've seen he's a turd hire....whoever comes in has a very talented roster and a team that SHOULD be able to compete each night with anyone. In about two years we'll really see how the new coach is as they recruit their own and have to play without all american talent.
My only concern is that we don't get the "Bruce Webber" situation...he "co-won" the big 12 his first year and probably was given more credit than was deserved and we've seen he's a turd hire....whoever comes in has a very talented roster and a team that SHOULD be able to compete each night with anyone. In about two years we'll really see how the new coach is as they recruit their own and have to play without all american talent.
Agree with this. Pay Horny over 2.5 mil a season, and let's get this show on the road after Fred leaves. It's really a NO BRAINER hire. Cyclone fans would embrace Hornacek (Cyclone legend), and allow him some time after next season to rebuild.
Sure Otz could do the job. Heck I could do the job. How well is another question. Like I said in previous posts..take a look at the big 12..heck take a look at every P5 Head coaching gig...TJ would rank dead last in the entire country with experience running a program. Think about that for a second. Dead last. If TJ is hired then JP has learned absolutely nothing in his entire tenure as our AD...nothing. Every major HC JP has hired has been an Iowa boy in some capacity and he's hired them on the cheap thinking he's smart and it will be a brilliant hire. Only exception of not being an Iowa boy was Chizik and that was failure at its finest. Fred was a once in lifetime gift who JP knew wanted the gig and most knew how freakin intelligent Fred was and a student of the game. Not a difficult hire given the state of the program.
this is Iowa State. Not UNC or KU or Duke. The state has little talent and doesn't have much appeal to recruits. I've said this for decades and I'll keep saying it and the same applies for fball. The only thing any AD hasn't tried here is to go get a top level coach and pay them $$$. It happens and it happens with programs that are tired of being dead last all the time. Perfect example is Bielema. Never thought he would leave Wisconsin for Arkansas. But they ponied up big $$ and in return got a great coach. A lot of $$ from donors and a lot of debt has been leveraged for this AD to be competitive. It would be an awful time to go hire the wrong guys to run the programs.
this is Iowa State. Not UNC or KU or Duke. The state has little talent and doesn't have much appeal to recruits. I've said this for decades and I'll keep saying it and the same applies for fball. The only thing any AD hasn't tried here is to go get a top level coach and pay them $$$. It happens and it happens with programs that are tired of being dead last all the time. Perfect example is Bielema. Never thought he would leave Wisconsin for Arkansas. But they ponied up big $$ and in return got a great coach. A lot of $$ from donors and a lot of debt has been leveraged for this AD to be competitive. It would be an awful time to go hire the wrong guys to run the programs.
No offense to you at all but why in the world do we keep bringing up "Iowa ties"? We had golden boy Fred Hoiberg from Ames, IA and he wouldn't stay more than 5 years. Let's go get the best possible coach we can and move forward.
If we continue to have success and establish ourselves as a consistent Top 25 or higher program, we will shed the stepping stone label at some point. But we CANNOT afford to take a big step back and miss on this hire.
Just wondering, it is a requirement for a new coach that he commit to staying longer than 5 years?
I think there was a reason Nick Nurse was passed-over for the head coaching job before they hired Hoiberg.. Wasn't Nick Nurse actually hired as an assistant at that time and then later scratched?
He was hired by McDermott about a week before he left, then wasn't retained by the new staff.
I work for a large Pharma company. I love my job and have been a very successful sales person. Everyone likes me too. Doesn't mean I'm qualified to be CEO. I'm sure I could learn how to do the job.
Fred was a risky hire. A lot of people thought Pollard was dumb for hiring Hoiberg at the time. Homers like myself and it sounds like you thought it was awesome. It just turns out the homers were right for once. If we can't get Horny I am more and more thinking Otz could do a good job for us.
Not at all. If we get a home run hire to replace Fred, I don't care if he is here for 2 years.
But I do think if we can maintain our success, we will shed the stepping stone label and could find someone who would consider this a destination job. But clearly we aren't there yet.
We are in a night-and-day different situation than when Fred was hired. If Fred failed, its not like we could take a huge step backwards. This time is much different. Otz is, in a way, much riskier than Fred if you consider the state of the program.
This is the contradiction I don't get. You don't care if a homerun hire is only here for 2 years, but our current home run hire is leaving after 5 and getting KILLED for it.
Actually, Otz has a lot more coaching experience than Fred had when he was hired. And look at the list of candidates that CW listed. For many of them, the spot where they are at now is their first HC gig. Otz would likely be a better hire than any of those guys because he has proven to be a pretty good recruiter at Iowa State and at Washington.
For all you know, Otz could be the next Brad Stephens, Ben Jacobson, or Tom Izzo, etc. All were assistants at their schools who became great head coaches.
Even Hornacek has shortcomings since he has never had to recruit players for his team. Recruiting is the key at the college level. And Hornacek has zero experience recruiting.
I like Leon Rice and Steve Prohm better than Brad Underwood. I also happen to thing Bryce Drew would be a home run hire, but I don't think he'd coach in the same conference as his brother.
