NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

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ThurgoodMarshal

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you post makes me sleepy
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00clone

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Has anyone researched what lakes got out of the deal? I haven't, but I'm suspecting that being forced to continue living in North Dakota was considered punishment enough.

North Dakota: Take South Dakota, but leave the parks behind, then add it to Minnesota, and leave the people behind.
 

lakesbison

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I'm in Minnesota and NDSU is 2-0 vs Big 12 in last 4 years and 1-0 vs big 12 in basketball. NDSU could compete day 1 in the big 12
 

CloneinWDSM

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I'm in Minnesota and NDSU is 2-0 vs Big 12 in last 4 years and 1-0 vs big 12 in basketball. NDSU could compete day 1 in the big 12

They could compete for about two weeks until they have to string together multiple games against D1 competition. Playing a D1 team week 1 one time a year is one thing, but doing it throughout a full year is another.
 

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Cloneinwsdm. NDSU would have 22 more scholarships you know. So if we can win with 63, imagine what we'd do with 85
 

CloneinWDSM

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Cloneinwsdm. NDSU would have 22 more scholarships you know. So if we can win with 63, imagine what we'd do with 85

Yes I get that. The depth would be a huge issue. Hard enough to get recruits away from big schools how the hell would you sell Fargo to recruits?
 

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I'm in Minnesota and NDSU is 2-0 vs Big 12 in last 4 years and 1-0 vs big 12 in basketball. NDSU could compete day 1 in the big 12

Technically they could compete, they'd get absolutely destroyed, but I guess they would be on the field.

Kids end up at NDSU because no D1 schools want them.
 

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I'm in Minnesota and NDSU is 2-0 vs Big 12 in last 4 years and 1-0 vs big 12 in basketball. NDSU could compete day 1 in the big 12

Competing one day and competing for one day are two totally different things. Can they beat Big 12 opponents? Sure they are a good program, so on the right day absolutely they could beat a mid-lower tier big 12 team. However, even with more scholarships they are not competing with the Big 12 week in week out - in the grinder of a conf. season. Look at TCU/WVU as a reference - schools who were successful (very successful prior to joining in TCU's case.)

WVU - 2 years before Big 12: 9-4 (5-2) 1 year prior: 10-3 (5-2) 1st year in Big 12: 7-6 (4-5) 2nd year conf: 4-8 (2-7)

TCU - 2 years before Big 12: 13-0 (8-0) last yr MWC: 11-2 (7-0) 1st year in Big 12: 7-6 (4-5) 2nd year in conf: 4-8 (2-7)

Beating Kansas (hands down worst program in league for years), K-State in a down year for them, and getting whooped by a mediocre 7-6 Iowa State team doesn't make you a big 12 competitor week in week out.

NDSU playing OU, Baylor, OSU, Oklahoma, Texas, TCU, TTU in 7 straight weeks would go 1-6 if they are lucky. There is no North or South in the conf anymore, but we all know the South is better. NDSU best case scenario would be if they averaged a 2-7 conference season year in year out. More likely would be 0-9 or 1-8.

You get no Ferris St, Youngstown St, Indiana St, Furman, Coastal Carolina, Delaware St when you play every week in the Big 12.
 
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CloneinWDSM

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Competing one day and competing for one day are two totally different things. Can they beat Big 12 opponents? Sure they are a good program, so on the right day absolutely they could beat a mid-lower tier big 12 team. However, even with more scholarships they are not competing with the Big 12 week in week out - in the grinder of a conf. season. Look at TCU/WVU as a reference - schools who were successful (very successful prior to joining in TCU's case.)

WVU - 2 years before Big 12: 9-4 (5-2) 1 year prior: 10-3 (5-2) 1st year in Big 12: 7-6 (4-5) 2nd year conf: 4-8 (2-7)

TCU - 2 years before Big 12: 13-0 (8-0) last yr MWC: 11-2 (7-0) 1st year in Big 12: 7-6 (4-5) 2nd year in conf: 4-8 (2-7)

Beating Kansas (hands down worst program in league for years), K-State in a down year for them, and getting whooped by a mediocre 7-6 Iowa State team doesn't make you a big 12 competitor week in week out.

NDSU playing OU, Baylor, OSU, Oklahoma, Texas, TCU, TTU in 7 straight weeks would go 1-6 if they are lucky. There is no North or South in the conf anymore, but we all know the South is better. NDSU best case scenario would be if they averaged a 2-7 conference season year in year out. More likely would be 0-9 or 1-8.

You get no Ferris St, Youngstown St, Indiana St, Furman, Coastal Carolina, Delaware St when you play every week in the Big 12.

Thank you. You made my point that I wanted to make but was way to lazy to write everything else.
 

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No SEC we would take care of business in the big 12 with 22 more schollys. Sell fargo? Culture of winning, loudest stadium in the nation, 30 miles from 1000 lakes and beaches in the summer. (Isu, KU, KSU, OKLA, TCU don't have that) strong economy for jobs, Oil money. Downtown party scene with 30,000 area college students at 50 bars.
 

CloneinWDSM

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No SEC we would take care of business in the big 12 with 22 more schollys. Sell fargo? Culture of winning, loudest stadium in the nation, 30 miles from 1000 lakes and beaches in the summer. (Isu, KU, KSU, OKLA, TCU don't have that) strong economy for jobs, Oil money. Downtown party scene with 30,000 area college students at 50 bars.

Culture of winning in the fcs.... And loudest stadium in the nation LOLLLLLLZZZZ
 

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No SEC we would take care of business in the big 12 with 22 more schollys. Sell fargo? Culture of winning, loudest stadium in the nation, 30 miles from 1000 lakes and beaches in the summer. (Isu, KU, KSU, OKLA, TCU don't have that) strong economy for jobs, Oil money. Downtown party scene with 30,000 area college students at 50 bars.

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?! :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
 

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Enrollment is 14k and your dome for fball holds 4k more than our bball arena.
 
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