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NFL: Jay Cutler and Bears likely parting ways
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I put the likelihood of a manziel flop at around 95%. He'll have moments but I don't see him ever taking a team to the playoffs.
As a die hard Bear fan and Cutler supporter I do not envy the position they are in at all.
Cutler is a very good QB in my opinion but not good enough to give a gigantic contract to. Especially when it looks like Trestman is a true QB guru. But on the other hand, they are going into an off season where they have have to revamp the entire D, do you really want to have to get a new QB as well?
It will be an interesting situation.
Cutler is a very good QB in my opinion but not good enough to give a gigantic contract to. Especially when it looks like Trestman is a true QB guru. But on the other hand, they are going into an off season where they have have to revamp the entire D, do you really want to have to get a new QB as well?
It will be an interesting situation.
The Bears should definitely try and keep Cutler, but not pay out the roof for him. Make the guy an offer, if he doesn't think its enough, then see ya.
Revamping that defense is a lot easier if you don't have to dump a ton of money into Cutler. I know it's not popular, but I say draft a QB and give McCown the reins for a year while the rookie learns.
But then again, this is coming from a Lions fan. Which by the way, I'd be happy to see Stafford suit up for Chicago next year.
Rebuild the D through the draft and you don't have to spend much money. The Bears would be better off cutting some of their vetarans who are no longer performing or can't stay healthy than releasing a rare franchise QB.
And boy, if Manziel can play in the NFL at all he will be stellar, but I think the odds are heavily against that. Manziel is a high bust potential player. I'd rather the Vikings stay away from him. It's just not worth the risk.
I'd take Bridgewater over Manziel. Houston should take Manziel, but I doubt Bridgewater will fall all the way to #8 for the Vikings.
Jay Cutler
Jerome Felton
Adrian Peterson
Kyle Rudolph
John Carlson
Greg Jennings
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jerome Simpson
Jarius Wright
I honestly think that would be one of the best groups of contributing "skill position" players in the NFC.
Vikings could draft almost solely defense and would be in position to compete for the playoffs right away.
Jerome Felton
Adrian Peterson
Kyle Rudolph
John Carlson
Greg Jennings
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jerome Simpson
Jarius Wright
I honestly think that would be one of the best groups of contributing "skill position" players in the NFC.
Vikings could draft almost solely defense and would be in position to compete for the playoffs right away.
The line is very good too
Kalil- Pro Bowler his rookie year, setback getting pneumonia last offseason and lost a lot of weight
Fusco- Decent to good guard
Sullivan- Elite center
Charlie Johnson- Average guard
Loadholt- Good to very good RT
This is a great article for Vikings fans:
Draft Mecca
I think Josh McCown proved a replacement-level, journeyman "game manager" can thrive in their new system with that level of coaching with that running game, that line (never though I would say good things about a Bear's line), and Marshall and Jeffery on the outside, who might be the best 1/2 punch at receiver in the league. Let Cutler walk, take the cap space to fill holes on the offense, draft best players, but lean on defense, and rebuild on that side of the ball. Hell, Josh McCown had a higher TQBR than PEYTON MANNING while he was playing:
NFL Total Quarterback Rating - National Football League - ESPN
Cutler is nothing special, and those big, cap-ruining contracts (Flacco, Ryan, Romo) are going to cripple those teams to mediocrity. If you don't have a truly elite guy (Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Wilson, etc.), then don't pay him like it, and use the balance on an average signal-caller and use the rest to build a good team around them. Reaching when you don't really have it is recipe for 7-9 or 8-8, which isn't going to get you anywhere. Ride it out with McCown, draft somebody in the later rounds to develop, and defense, defense, defense.
NFL Total Quarterback Rating - National Football League - ESPN
Cutler is nothing special, and those big, cap-ruining contracts (Flacco, Ryan, Romo) are going to cripple those teams to mediocrity. If you don't have a truly elite guy (Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Wilson, etc.), then don't pay him like it, and use the balance on an average signal-caller and use the rest to build a good team around them. Reaching when you don't really have it is recipe for 7-9 or 8-8, which isn't going to get you anywhere. Ride it out with McCown, draft somebody in the later rounds to develop, and defense, defense, defense.
Worst rushing defense since the 1961 expansion Vikings according to the broadcast last night.
I see Josh McCown similar to that of Todd Collins.
In 2007, Collins stepped in and did a marvelous job for the Redskins for 5 games or so at the age of 36. After that, he was a serviceable backup, but never contributed anything as a starter.
Where Cutler has leverage is the Bears have no plan at the quarterback position for the future if Chicago lets him walk.
He's probably going to get pretty big money, and while he's not bad, he's not worth franchise QB money. They can get by with McCown for a couple years and either draft a QB this year, or wait until next year (which could have a loaded QB class if Bridgewater holds off for another year and Winston comes out, plus Hundley at UCLA and Mariota; and who knows, Connor Cook at MSU has potential but he's still got quite a ways to go).
There's a pretty solid crop of defensive free agents this year, so the Bears could definitely use money that would go to Cutler elsewhere.
There's a pretty solid crop of defensive free agents this year, so the Bears could definitely use money that would go to Cutler elsewhere.
The Bears have already tried going "all in" on Defense and it didn't win them a Super Bowl. You need an elite QB to win.
There isn't anyone better, but they don't have to go out and "get" anyone. McCown (or someone similar) can serve as a good bridge option before handing the reins to a young guy they draft in either of the next two drafts. Giving Cutler a big contract would be an even bigger mistake than letting him go. He's never broken the 90 passer rating plateau in 8 years, and he's got a 5.8/4.2 TD/INT ratio for his career. He's solid, but he's not a franchise QB. The ONLY reason people delude themselves into thinking otherwise is because he's got a big arm. But his decision making is shaky, and it's unlikely to improve much. He's going into his ninth year and turns 31 in the spring; he is what he is.
Those offenses claimed Bernarnd Berrian and an aging Muhsin Muhammad as starting receivers, for crying out loud. The personnel they have in place now gives almost any QB a solid chance of producing (see: Josh McCown over the last month). Forte is one of the most underrated players in the league (he's one of the top backs), and the receiving trio of Jeffery, Marshall and Bennett is ridiculous. Grossman didn't have weapons like that at his disposal.
You rarely win the Super Bowl without good defense. Since 2000, only the Saints and Giants (2011) have won the Super Bowl with average or worse defenses; Indy's defense was terrible in the 2006 regular season, but it was dominant with Bob Sanders back in the lineup for the postseason. Meanwhile, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco and Brad Johnson all have Super Bowl rings.
That's why I don't see Denver, Green Bay, Philly, San Diego, Indianapolis, Kansas City or New England winning the Super Bowl. Then you look at the league's top 5 defenses, and find Seattle, Carolina, Cincinnati, New Orleans and San Francisco. Of those five teams, only New Orleans (IMO) has no real shot to win it all (I think Philly beats them). And only one of the four contenders (Seattle) has an elite QB.
Elite QB's are definitely nice, but among teams that choose either/or between QB and defense, there are a lot more Super Bowl champions that chose defense than there are that took the passer.
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