JUCO QB #1 Priority

[cyhiphopp]

That's ignorant. There are plenty of QB's around the country that can perform at the level of either Rohach or Richardson. This position is a big problem right now. Rhoads obviously agrees. But, I'm sure you know more than him. You might want to update your resume and send it in to Pollard.

Where are they? They all want to come to ISU?

If they could get the top JuCo QB to come in and start next year you might have a point. They likely can't. I think Rhoads likes his guys a lot more than wasting a scholly on another Jr next year who has absolutely no experience at the Division 1 level.


How often does a JuCo QB come in and instantly fix an entire offense single handedly?

The issues with this offense stem from scheme, playcalling, and Offensive line health. All of those come before QB play. Sam has played well when healthy and with a healthy supporting cast.

I think it's more important to find a better offensive coordinator than to pray that there's a JuCo QB out there that can fix everything by himself.

 

[CurvedAir]

Where are they? They all want to come to ISU?

If they could get the top JuCo QB to come in and start next year you might have a point. They likely can't. I think Rhoads likes his guys a lot more than wasting a scholly on another Jr next year who has absolutely no experience at the Division 1 level.


How often does a JuCo QB come in and instantly fix an entire offense single handedly?

The issues with this offense stem from scheme, playcalling, and Offensive line health. All of those come before QB play. Sam has played well when healthy and with a healthy supporting cast.

I think it's more important to find a better offensive coordinator than to pray that there's a JuCo QB out there that can fix everything by himself.

I'm assuming a change at OC. I'm not asking for "Cam Newton" or the "top JUCO QB". I'm asking to at least attempt to find a QB that has a chance to come in and start next year, or at the very least provide competition to Richardson and Rohach. I've seen Richardson miss far too many throws (badly) to give me any confidence that he's a B12-winning QB.

There are a lot of problems on this team. We need help at pretty much every position. To me, it all starts with the QB. This is my opinion; I don't think either Richardson or Rohach are the answer regardless of line play, receivers, etc. The long term option on the current roster based on what I've seen looks to be Hodge.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I like our chances with Sam and Grant under a new OC next year. There are a ton of offenses that have done a lot more with less talent than we have, even against good defenses.

 

[CyberJJJ]

The more laughable thing is fans continue to think just fix the QB and the offense is good. Ignoring the fact the line has been terrible (even when healthy) and the receiver group has been the biggest issue with this program for 6 years.


But yeah, just replace the QB and it's all bunnies-n-sunshine!

Klenakis was heralded as the savior, but we haven't really seen it so far. The inability to consistently run the football has been the glaring weekness of this team.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Klenakis was heralded as the savior, but we haven't really seen it so far. The inability to consistently run the football has been the glaring weekness of this team.

I think Coach K is better but having a different starting OL every week is killing us. They actually ran the ball decently, but the offense as a whole was crap and couldn't score.

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

No way. It starts with the QB. Most important position on the field. I think we have B12-level depth at those positions you mention, although I would take JUCO help there as well. We will not win with either Rohach or Richardson regardless of the defense, IMO.

Wrong. We need Juco OL who can run block, and pass block consistently for 3 seconds so our QBs can be effective. In that order.

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

I think Rhoads said on his call is show they have a JC QB they are targeting for this years recruiting class. A guy that would fit perfect into what they are trying to do on offense, I believe was his quote. I'm not exactly sure what they are trying to do, so it would be nice to find out.

If so, he will be looking for a QB who can function with "lookout blocks" 50% of the time, run a 3.8 second forty backwards and sideways while throwing accurately on the run. That's all. Solves All our offensive problems.

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

One of our guys is a RS Soph., the other is a RS Freshman. How can people write them off given the horrible handling and coaching they have received and given the fact that they are trying to run a tossed salad "system" that nobody recognizes. Give them a decent scheme, a little confidence and a decent line and then let's critique them.

This.

 

[theyork]

Richardson and Rohach aren't the answers. Nothing against them...I'm sure they're great students and teammates. Bring in a JUCO QB for the next couple of years and hope that Hodge is as good as advertised.

This ISU team reminds me of the Chiefs last year. Poor QB play, terrible offensive coordinator, and lack of basic fundamentals destroyed their season. This can be fixed. Rhoads won't let this go on without making major changes this winter. I have total faith in him.

you not posting anymore #1 priority.

this offense is bad, and injury laden. the best QB in all of college football wouldn't fare much better. the entire offense has issues.

 

[clonedude]

you not posting anymore #1 priority.

this offense is bad, and injury laden. the best QB in all of college football wouldn't fare much better. the entire offense has issues.

See, I disagree with you on this. Obviously QB isn't the only problem on this team. Anyone with half a brain knows this. But, if you could only add one player to this team, what would it be?

Adding one stud OL probably isn't going to make a gigantic difference. We're already adding a couple stud WRs next year, so that doesn't even count. You could maybe make the case for a complete stud of a pass rusher.

But the fact is, we can't add an entire OL in one year. By going out and getting one awesome JUCO player, QB is the position that you could get the most improvement from by far. If there was another Seneca Wallace, or a Cam Newton kind of player out there, that would improve this team dramatically next year. I know I'm dreaming, and someone else has already pointed out there aren't any JUCO QB options really out there for us to grab, so it's kind of a moot point.

But a stud JUCO QB would help this team tremendously IMO. We aren't getting nearly the production out of the QB like we need. And yes, there are WRs running open, we just can't find them.

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

Until we learn to run the football effectively, defenses are going to keep teeing off on all our QBs. Cam Newton himself couldn't function in this offensive system. But I will say this, the OL has been a little better last 2 games pass blocking, and Sam missed some throws in both games. Little doubt his confidence is shaken vs. last year where his body language on the field was much more confident. He is ducking his head, but with good reason. Offense looked like a Chinese fire drill first 5-6 games. He needs to find trust this OL group again. They are protecting him better as of late.

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

With this morning's news, Rhoads obviously disagrees. You might want to call him and tell him he's making a mistake based on your insight. Seems pretty clear to me that he has serious doubts that either is the long term option.

What news? Rhoads actually said that Sam very well could trot out there Saturday to start.

 

[ketelmeister]

How do you judge Sam Richardson when they have played him hurt all season? He was never given a chance to get better. And GR has come in when we are behind by 20 and the defense has nothing to lose.

 

[ISU_Clone_28]

On the flip side of the ball it does look like we are after a couple of JUCO outside line backers. Interesting as I thought I had seen quite a bit of chatter about how well some of those kids were coming along at the position. A good JUCO QB would help tremendously but not sure how strong of a market there is going to be for us to get one better than what we may develop by next year. Then again I dont know what to think anymore. I thought this was supposed to be one of our best and most athletic classes and all I see is a lot of room for improvement.

 

[CurvedAir]

you not posting anymore #1 priority.

this offense is bad, and injury laden. the best QB in all of college football wouldn't fare much better. the entire offense has issues.

There are homers and there are idiots. You are an idiot. At least half the QB's in our own conference would "fare better" in this offense.

 

[HitItHard58]

Richardson and Rohach aren't the answers. Nothing against them...I'm sure they're great students and teammates. Bring in a JUCO QB for the next couple of years and hope that Hodge is as good as advertised.

This ISU team reminds me of the Chiefs last year. Poor QB play, terrible offensive coordinator, and lack of basic fundamentals destroyed their season. This can be fixed. Rhoads won't let this go on without making major changes this winter. I have total faith in him.

You're flat out wrong on this. A healthy offensive line and decent play calling are the answer. There aren't many if any QBs @ any level who would look decent running this offense. People who always see the QB as the problem show their overall lack of football knowledge if you ask me. You're entitled to your opinion but again, you're wrong.

 

[CurvedAir]

You're flat out wrong on this. A healthy offensive line and decent play calling are the answer. There aren't many if any QBs @ any level who would look decent running this offense. People who always see the QB as the problem show their overall lack of football knowledge if you ask me. You're entitled to your opinion but again, you're wrong.

Sorry, but I'm not. You're missing the obvious.

Two questions for you.

Why in the world would Rhoads continue to make weekly QB changes if he felt either of them were the answer. You surely understand this program would be miles ahead if he felt confident in an underclassman QB.

Why do Richardson and Rohach continue to miss wide open receivers with no pressure and make poor decisions... a fact that has been pointed out numerous times this season by Messingham and Rhoads.

You must have more knowledge and insight than the head coach and OC.

 

[HitItHard58]

Wrong again. Missing open receivers by 15-20 feet with no pressure is on the QB Jon Gruden wannabe.

Yeah occasionally QBs make bad throws. Even Aaron Rodgers misses once in a while. A lot of QBs have the luxury of receivers making great catches and bailing them out every now and then. Playmakers have to make plays and I can only think of a few times that has happened all season. As a receiver, if the ball is close you find a way to make the catch. Some fans seem to think the QB sucks if he doesn't put it right in the receivers hands without them having to make any sort of adjustment. Call IsuFan22 a Jon Gruden wannabe all you want but at least he seems to understand the game unlike you. I really like his term ballwatcher by the way. Really sums up people like you who don't see the entire game, just what's on the surface.

 

[CurvedAir]

Yeah occasionally QBs make bad throws. Even Aaron Rodgers misses once in a while. A lot of QBs have the luxury of receivers making great catches and bailing them out every now and then. Playmakers have to make plays and I can only think of a few times that has happened all season. As a receiver, if the ball is close you find a way to make the catch. Some fans seem to think the QB sucks if he doesn't put it right in the receivers hands without them having to make any sort of adjustment. Call IsuFan22 a Jon Gruden wannabe all you want but at least he seems to understand the game unlike you. I really like his term ballwatcher by the way. Really sums up people like you who don't see the entire game, just what's on the surface.

Answer the questions I asked you. And, yes, I understand the game as well as you or IsuFan22.

 

[Londo]

Whats Jerome Tiller up to nowadays?







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