ISU looking into incident that involves Sims

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CloneIce

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Wow, that is awful. Try telling someone who's had a loved one killed or injured by a drunk driver that its not a serious crime. Oh, and I consider myself "normal", and have never driven drunk.

Driving over the legal limit does not = killing or injuring someone else. Driving over the speed limit kills many people as well, but not every person driving over the speed limit is a danger to kill others on the road. Its not simply a black and white, I am not arguing with the law but it is a fairly minor crime in many cases.
 

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Has anyone looked into the person accusing him of this. The owner of the card? Just trying to find some possible "maybe it's not what it seems" scenarios and from the looks of it the person (or at least same name/age range) has been charged w/ several things in the past including "false report to police officers". Maybe this is all a big misunderstanding and this is a false report as well? I hope so.
 

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Iowa has suspended players before the legal system has played out. Dominique Douglas and Everson come to mind for being suspended before being found guilty of anything. However, the evidence in the case made it impossible for Iowa or Coach Ferentz to keep them on the team and they were rightfully dismissed from the team.

I think what Coach Ferentz tries to do is get a gauge on what happened and then decide on any punishment. I think he does a good job of this. Players are going to get in trouble and it is up to him to decide what the consequences should be for the trouble they got in. Not an easy thing to do when you have a high expectation level from fans to win and when you are dealing with a player that might have a big future in front of them. You don't want to wrongfully suspend a player and possibly ruin their college and future NFL careers.
 

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Has anyone looked into the person accusing him of this. The owner of the card? Just trying to find some possible "maybe it's not what it seems" scenarios and from the looks of it the person (or at least same name/age range) has been charged w/ several things in the past including "false report to police officers". Maybe this is all a big misunderstanding and this is a false report as well? I hope so.

I don't see how. Haven't seen anything where the victim accused anyone specifically. All I've seen is that she reported the card stolen and the stores are providing video of the user.
 

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Driving over the legal limit does not = killing or injuring someone else. Driving over the speed limit kills many people as well, but not every person driving over the speed limit is a danger to kill others on the road. Its not simply a black and white, I am not arguing with the law but it is a fairly minor crime in many cases.

How about driving a moped drunk through the scene of an accident, hypothetically of course?
 

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Has anyone looked into the person accusing him of this. The owner of the card? Just trying to find some possible "maybe it's not what it seems" scenarios and from the looks of it the person (or at least same name/age range) has been charged w/ several things in the past including "false report to police officers". Maybe this is all a big misunderstanding and this is a false report as well? I hope so.

I.e. The way she was dressed she was asking for it.
 

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Has anyone looked into the person accusing him of this. The owner of the card? Just trying to find some possible "maybe it's not what it seems" scenarios and from the looks of it the person (or at least same name/age range) has been charged w/ several things in the past including "false report to police officers". Maybe this is all a big misunderstanding and this is a false report as well? I hope so.

Wow.
 

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I don't see how. Haven't seen anything where the victim accused anyone specifically. All I've seen is that she reported the card stolen and the stores are providing video of the user.
This. Some pretty hard evidence against Sims and his gf.
 

Clonefan32

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Come on David. If you were needing some cash we could have gone into the Tim Floyd bag-of-tricks and hiked up your scholarship per diem by a few hundred a month. :jimlad:
 

The_Architect

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If Sims' g/f really loved him she could fall on the sword. Sims will be making some big money a year from now if so!

:jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad:
 

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Has anyone looked into the person accusing him of this. The owner of the card? Just trying to find some possible "maybe it's not what it seems" scenarios and from the looks of it the person (or at least same name/age range) has been charged w/ several things in the past including "false report to police officers". Maybe this is all a big misunderstanding and this is a false report as well? I hope so.

If there is video of the card being used by the alleged perpetrator, then it would be very difficult to file a "false" report.
 

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Anytime any human being drives a vehicle it has the capacity to "injure, maim, kill, destroy, etc." Most normal people, at some point in their life, have had a few drinks and drove home safely, without putting others in danger. Thats just reality.


Fair point that simply driving can cause horrific accidents. However, when an individual makes a decision which increases the risk of those consequences I fail to see how that is not a big deal. You say "without putting others in danger". BS. Others simply survived the increased danger. Just because I had an uneventful drive doesn't mean that I was not subjected to any danger from others.

The idea that every time anyone who is over the legal limit drives anywhere they are completely out of control, all over the road and endangering the lives of others is simply not true. Most of us have had a few and drove, probably illegally, but safely. That was my point, but I doubt you can see it from your high horse.

Where did I state that every person over 0.08 BAC will turn the highway into a demo derby? I know that your point was that plenty of people drive/have driven while legally intoxicated without causing accidents. I refuse to acknowledge that they drove "safely" as being intoxicated (whether behaviorally or legally) is incompatible with driving safely. Just because someone drives home from the bar intoxicated without getting pulled over or causing an accident doesn't mean that they were a safe driver for that trip.

Yes, I could see your point, but luckily since I was on my horse I didn't have to step in it.
 

Cyclonestate78

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Driving over the legal limit does not = killing or injuring someone else. Driving over the speed limit kills many people as well, but not every person driving over the speed limit is a danger to kill others on the road. Its not simply a black and white, I am not arguing with the law but it is a fairly minor crime in many cases.

I will agree to a certain extent. Driver A is driving home after a couple of beers after work and is at .08. Driver B got off work at noon and went straight to the bar and is rocking a .18. Legally speaking both are driving drunk but which one is more dangerous on the road?
 

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Has anyone looked into the person accusing him of this. The owner of the card? Just trying to find some possible "maybe it's not what it seems" scenarios and from the looks of it the person (or at least same name/age range) has been charged w/ several things in the past including "false report to police officers". Maybe this is all a big misunderstanding and this is a false report as well? I hope so.

She didn't "accuse" anyone. She lost her card on Friday, and on Saturday noticed some transactions she hadn't made and realized her card was missing. She reported the card stolen and the police took it from there.

I think you're reaching...
 

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I will agree to a certain extent. Driver A is driving home after a couple of beers after work and is at .08. Driver B got off work at noon and went straight to the bar and is rocking a .18. Legally speaking both are driving drunk but which one is more dangerous on the road?

Could be either one. Which is naturally the worse driver? There are several people that shouldn't be on the road sober.
 

CloneIce

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Fair point that simply driving can cause horrific accidents. However, when an individual makes a decision which increases the risk of those consequences I fail to see how that is not a big deal. You say "without putting others in danger". BS. Others simply survived the increased danger. Just because I had an uneventful drive doesn't mean that I was not subjected to any danger from others.

Perhaps... but I would argue that the danger many over the limit drivers pose is no more increased from the normal driver than someone who is talking on the cell phone, distracted, tired, trying to handle a bunch of kids in the back seat, etc.

I would disagree with your last sentence... if the over the limit driver is obeying traffic rules and driving competently, you were not subjected to any increased danger above the norm in driving a vehicle.
 

Cyclonestate78

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Could be either one. Which is naturally the worse driver? There are several people that shouldn't be on the road sober.

Excellent point. I would also go as far as to say that I would trust a guy driving next to me who is at .08 then some 16 year old kid with their music blasting and texting on their cellphone as they are driving.
 
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