You're right. Cyclonefanatics, we must band together to rid the world of this terrible alcohol. We must drink it all before it kills our children. Who's with me?
Well, if it is for the kids, count me in.
And I don't even like alcohol.
You're right. Cyclonefanatics, we must band together to rid the world of this terrible alcohol. We must drink it all before it kills our children. Who's with me?
Well, if it is for the kids, count me in.
And I don't even like alcohol.![]()
Sorry, I did that as a joke because I thought some people were taking this way too far.
What do you think of SFKlone's favorite teams? Bad taste?
More and more I look at all these cases, it seems to me we are looking in all the wrong places for the killer. In fact, I think the killer is right in front of us. . . its name is alcohol.
The only common denominator in all these deaths, is that the young people were out drinking with friends, many times binge drinking and then made poor decisions to walk home alone, usually through or into a body of water. (Obviously, not all of the deaths involved binge drinking, but the majority of them did).
Are some of these cases suspicious? Were some of the people murdered or kidnapped, maybe? All too often, many of these young people simply drank too much and became disoriented. It is no surprise to me that many of the drownings/deaths occurred in the Upper Midwest where lakes are prevalent and many colleges are right next to major rivers.
I thought it was funny.. But I can see why someone who is doing their best to fabricate a story out of random incidents and all the while working themselves into a worrying frenzy might not think it's so funny..
And wondering what the coverup is because 8 college aged guys drowned in 9 yrs????? Talk about making something out of nothing?
its at least 40 and could be up to 80. 8 in 9 years is in LaCrosse, WI, do some research.
because im totally fabricating a story...
look at the patterns. and you dont just wander into a lake, drown in a couple feet of water, and "slip" under the ice the way all these people do.
I get it that some of that information is a bit of a stretch. But change this 'Also, 8 people drowned in 9 years in a college town?' to 'Also, 8 women drowned in 9 years in a college town?' and you would have a media frenzy. Also, it's not just 8 people in 9 years, it is now possibly up to 40, all of generally the same demographic, and certain towns, and patterns keep showing up.
The detective and sargent from the NYPD also think it might be more going back to the mid to late 90s when they started investigating a case in NYC in 1997 (for the NYPD).
But wtf do veteran sargents and detectives from the NYPD know? Apparently not as much as a guy from a message board who's yet to show a counterproof.
The point is, there is no pattern... you are all making connections that don't exist.
This is the first page I found on death statistics; it's for 2002:
Death Statistics Tables
According to the site, for ages 15-24, there were 646 drowning deaths that year, or roughly 2 a day. I've seen people drunk enough they'd drown in a half-filled bath tub; saying ~10 college deaths over a MULTI-year period MUST be connected is ludicrous.
the pattern of drunk college guys drowning? There's a reason it's all (or mostly) males: statistically, women aren't as likely to do risky things... there isn't anything there out of the norm.
The detective and sargent from the NYPD also think it might be more going back to the mid to late 90s when they started investigating a case in NYC in 1997 (for the NYPD).
But wtf do veteran sargents and detectives from the NYPD know? Apparently not as much as a guy from a message board who's yet to show a counterproof.
No counterproof is necessary, because the evidence has pointed to accidental drownings, at least as far as the law is concerned. The SFK nuts are the ones that need to offer proof, because the vast, vast majority of these cases have not been ruled homicides. The only thing that the SFK folks can put forth is loose conjecture, rumors and coincidence. Make no mistake, theirs is the burden of proof, and the fact that so few of these cases have been ruled as homicides demonstrates exactly how flimsy the SFK theory is.
I am so glad to read the last few pages of this thread and see that more folks are calling out the ridiculousness of the SFK theory. Let's hear more of it!!!
No counterproof is necessary, because the evidence has pointed to accidental drownings, at least as far as the law is concerned. The SFK nuts are the ones that need to offer proof, because the vast, vast majority of these cases have not been ruled homicides. The only thing that the SFK folks can put forth is loose conjecture, rumors and coincidence. Make no mistake, theirs is the burden of proof, and the fact that so few of these cases have been ruled as homicides demonstrates exactly how flimsy the SFK theory is.
I am so glad to read the last few pages of this thread and see that more folks are calling out the ridiculousness of the SFK theory. Let's hear more of it!!!
Actually when you prove anything, you have to provide a counterexample or proof of the counter proof if you are trying to prove the original proof wrong. This is common knowledge if you know anything about proofs.
Please never submit a scientific paper with proofs in it and save yourself the time.
You should really provide a counterproof to make all of us question this.
that's all well and good for scientific papers, but not really the way that the legal system works.
then PROVE to me that the SFK's dont exist. You cant do that as much as i cant prove to you that they do exist.
Are you a lawyer or a law assistant?
nope, I'm a professional parkour acrobat.
the detective mortgaged his house to be able to investigate this, im saying he has a pretty good hunch that these arent coincidences.
Or he figures he can pay it off with a nice book deal. But I don't know the man enough to question his motive or integrity... just throwing out there that other possibilities exist.