Winners and Losers in the Draft

Discussion in 'Pro Sports' started by hawkeyeh8r, May 1, 2011.

  1. hawkeyeh8r

    hawkeyeh8r Well-Known Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    2,159
    46
    48
    Ames
    Who do you think had a good draft and who failed miserably?

    I think the Lions got a steal w/ Fairley and that defensive line is gonna be good for along time to come. If the packers werent in that division and if stafford could stay healthy, they'd be winning the division in 2 or 3 year
     
  2. ISUAgronomist

    ISUAgronomist Well-Known Member

    Nov 5, 2009
    22,489
    1,250
    113
    Ag Research
    Close Enough, IA
    Losers: Redskins - Niles Paul :wink:
     
  3. Mr Janny

    Mr Janny Welcome to the Office of Secret Intelligence
    Staff Member Bookie

    Mar 27, 2006
    28,860
    1,233
    113
    I don't think their ineptitude was limited to just Niles Paul. They got a ton of picks, but nearly every one arrives with questions, except maybe Kerrigan.
     
  4. hawkeyeh8r

    hawkeyeh8r Well-Known Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    2,159
    46
    48
    Ames
    i think the chiefs failed when they picked up stanzi. if they were serious about a QB they should have gotten mallet or dalton in the 2nd or 3rd round
     
  5. Mr Janny

    Mr Janny Welcome to the Office of Secret Intelligence
    Staff Member Bookie

    Mar 27, 2006
    28,860
    1,233
    113
    I don't like Stankzi any more than the next guy, but for a 5th rounder, intended to be a backup, he's not a bad pick. He'll hold a clipboard for a while, maybe his whole career, but he'll probably keep his roster spot.
     
  6. Yes13

    Yes13 Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2009
    3,323
    128
    63
    Just a reminder, Packers didn't win the division last year.

    I liked
    Colts-Drake Nevis, Castonzo
    Lions-Fairley, Titus Young, Leshoure
    Patriots- Solder, Mallett, Dowling
    Cardinals- Peterson, Ryan Williams

    Didn't like
    49ers-Aldon Smith at 7, Kaepernick
    Vikings first 2 picks, I liked the Ballard, Burton picks
    Bills- I think they'll regret picking Dareus over Peterson/AJ Green. Aaron Williams bleh

    I hope
    The Cowboys drafted players can play up to their talent level. Tyron Smith, DeMarco Murray, and Bruce Carter can be beasts.
    Da'quan Bower's Knee is perfectly fine, and he shows up all the doctors
    Ponder/Mallett(even though I hate the Patriots) become the best QBs in this draft
     
  7. hawkeyeh8r

    hawkeyeh8r Well-Known Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    2,159
    46
    48
    Ames
    ya but we need a backup for cassel he's old (in football years) and we need a more reliable passer
     
  8. Yes13

    Yes13 Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2009
    3,323
    128
    63
    QBs can play for a long time, and you weren't gonna get a more reliable qb than Cassel in this draft.
     
  9. hawkeyeh8r

    hawkeyeh8r Well-Known Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    2,159
    46
    48
    Ames
    not for a couple years at least. i think andy dalton would have been a reliable after sitting on the bench and learning the playbook for a couple years
     
  10. Mr Janny

    Mr Janny Welcome to the Office of Secret Intelligence
    Staff Member Bookie

    Mar 27, 2006
    28,860
    1,233
    113
    How would they get Dalton, though? He went as the 3rd pick of the 2nd round. Should KC have passed on Baldwin to take Dalton?
     
  11. hawkeyeh8r

    hawkeyeh8r Well-Known Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    2,159
    46
    48
    Ames
    i would have traded up to get him since they picked up a bunch of picks after they traded down in the first round.
     
  12. CykoAGR

    CykoAGR Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    1,693
    69
    48
    Waukee, IA

    Say what you want about Ricky but he was a very good QB last year as far as stats go, he struggled in his So and Jr years but last year he was very comparable to Dalton and Ricky played better teams.

    Dalton Stats:

    2010 - Attempts/Completions 309/216 for 66.1%, 27TDs with 6 INT, for a 166.5 Rating

    Stanzi Stats:

    2010 - 345-221 for 64.1%, 25 TD's with 6 INT, for a 157.6 Rating


    I know its only one game but Stanzi had a much better game against Wisconsin in 2010 than Dalton did.

    Dalton is a much better runner than Stanzi but running isnt really what you are asking them to do.

    If I had to put money on it I would bet that they are both decent NFL QB's but neither are starters or at least starter quality.
     
  13. CyJack13

    CyJack13 Well-Known Member

    May 21, 2010
    8,980
    116
    63
    I'm a Bears fan and the Fairley pick scares the hell out of me. Fairley, Suh, Vanden Bosch, thats a nice DL. The Titus Young and Leshore picks were good too. Detroit has a lot of nice young pieces now, just have to keep Stafford healthy.

    I also think Mallett is going to turn out to be by far the best QB to come out of this draft and him going in the third round is an absolute steal by the Pats.
     
  14. Hawkeye11en1

    Hawkeye11en1 Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2011
    11,173
    423
    83
    Colorado
    He is 28 and will be on his 3rd season as a true "starter". How is that old? The Chiefs did not need a starting QB. Unless Cassel stops his progression and starts to decline this year (not sure why he would, he is only 28), the Chiefs just need a better backup. A 5th round pick on someone who will be a backup for most (or all) of his career is not a bad pick. He can learn the offense in the next 2-3 years and develop into a capable backup. I think nearly anyone in the draft would be better suited than Croyle, however. I don't think the Chiefs were trying to pick up their future star QB...they were trying to provide capable depth to a position that they desperately needed depth at.
     
  15. drmwevr08

    drmwevr08 Well-Known Member

    Nov 25, 2006
    3,684
    79
    48
    City Planner
    Omaha, NE
    Hell the guy has hardly any miles on him at all! Hes always been a backup!
     
  16. Hawkeye11en1

    Hawkeye11en1 Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2011
    11,173
    423
    83
    Colorado
    I know! He didn't get tackled for what, 8 straight years??!??!? lol crazy, but almost true...
     
  17. cyzguy

    cyzguy Member

    Sep 2, 2010
    106
    4
    18
    The Packers were most certainly winners! Wow did they just get a lot better! Ol Teddy Thompson seems to be really good at late round value?!?!
     
  18. PabloDiablo

    PabloDiablo Well-Known Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    2,823
    99
    48
    Physical Therapist
    Omaha, NE
    x2
     
  19. CloneIce

    CloneIce Well-Known Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    22,630
    592
    113
    Yeah, and its not like he is going to be any worse than Brodie Croyle. He has proven over and over again that he can't win in the NFL.
     
  20. ISUFan22

    ISUFan22 Well-Known Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    33,751
    722
    113
    Male
    Healthcare IT Project Manager
    Denver, CO
    Based on your username alone - you can't debate this particular subject without bias. Move along. :)

    I personally don't think the Stanzi pick was a bad one. IMO, he will have a Sage Rosenfels like NFL career. Backup QB that may get the chance to start because of injury - but won't be consistent enough to truly compete for a starting gig.
     

Share This Page