Who's going to take the fall at EIU?

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  1. musicboy

    musicboy Member

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    Someone is surely going to lose his or her job over this disaster at EIU. Who will that be?

    KF
    Sally Mason
    Gary Barta

    or some poor associate athletic director who is close to retirement?
     
  2. zdorr40

    zdorr40 Well-Known Member

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    My guess is that they'll put together some type of committee and just continue to hide behind policies. I hope I'm wrong.
     
  3. PGreen ISU '92

    PGreen ISU '92 Well-Known Member

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    #3 PGreen ISU '92, Jul 21, 2008
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    My prediction -- Fred Mimms will be the fall-guy -- He will resign (not be fired) -- noone else will lose their job. I hope I'm wrong. I've read the letter and if that is an accurate portrayal of the story UI President Sally Mason needs to go and/or Gary Barta.
     
  4. Phaedrus

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    As I've stated in another thread, the female employee who is the coordinator for athletics, and whose name escapes me, is the natural choice. She is mentioned in nearly every article, but none explains why she is.

    She is as good as gone. Though look for her to be rehired, as a consultant, at four times the salary for "taking one for the team".
     
  5. Tornado man

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    And, as I've stated on the Kirk Ferentz thread, the U of I has a big problem on its hands in the form of BOR President David Miles. He is a very, very smart man, and will ask the hard questions. He will not put up with incompetence at best, and obstruction at worst. Mason, Barta, and Ferentz should all fear for their jobs if David Miles is indeed "shocked" about how this has played out, as he says that he is.
     
  6. bellzisu

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    I'm guess they won't touch KF unless he has another losing season. Remember that ugly comment that Pat Hardy made on C & C regarding if Iowa football program was winning then most of this will go away.

    Barta and Sally will find ways to hide behind the policies in place.

    It will be interesting to say the least. I have a feeling no one will get fired though.
     
  7. Al_4_State

    Al_4_State Well-Known Member

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    They all stay. Guarantee it. I have a sick feeling that a massive injustice is going to happen here, and everyone will know what a sham it really is. It will be OJ-esque, at least in the sense that the obviously guilty will go unpunished...
     
  8. Clonehomer

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    I don't see how Kirk will lose his job. He can hide behind the policy and claim he was doing what the university instructed him to do. I'm sure he was not the one in charge of providing the BOR the information requested so he couldn't get into trouble there.

    Barta could be in a little trouble, but he just got there and he can claim the policy was from before his time and he has not had the chance to review everything.

    The president also just got there and can also claim this as the previous administration's problem.

    I think everyone important will be spared and there will be a committee to review university policies and proceedures. I do, however, feel that if this gets as ugly as speculated Kirk will be encouraged to find a new job to get all of this behind the university.
     
  9. Wx4Cy

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    Unfortunately it may be the victim.
     
  10. aeroclone

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    I very much hope that this is the case. We need to have questions answered and all that are found to be in the wrong need to face the consequences of their actions.

    However, from what I see here I'm going to have to vote for some assistant AD close to retirement taking the fall here. EIU seems to be circling the wagons and hiding behind policy and trying to make this thing disappear quietly. It seems that for this thing to be played out to the end the media needs to get more engaged. This may finally be starting to happen, but up until now this story has hardly registered. The warrents were finally released but they were back page to the flooding. Now with RAGBRAI going on it seems tha the Rag has no interest in pushing this to the front as they should. Even today, several days after the letter surfaced, I had to dig on their website to find an article on it. Had I not been looking for it, I never would have known it was there.

    I hope I am wrong about this, I really hope that someone will step up and see that this is investigated to the end, but at this point I still have a lot of worries that people are going to get off the hook for this one way or another.
     
  11. aeroclone

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    I have been tempted to make the OJ connection at many points on this issue but I have resisted so far. But I agree completely, it has that feeling of the powerful but obviously guilty buying their way out of punishment for the crime. The thing is, OJ could go off and try to hide on the golf course. It's pretty hard for the University to keep a low profile...
     
  12. Tornado man

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    We will see, aeroclone. I hope you are wrong, too.
    However, that sound you hear is the "deep breath" that Sally Mason is taking when her administrative assistant announces, "David Miles is on line 2."
     
  13. brianhos

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    No one will take the fall, the regents will say it is a policy problem, they will form a committee, and then bury it.
     
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  14. Aclone

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    And why is this in ISU football?
     
  15. Cyclonesrule91

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    #15 Cyclonesrule91, Jul 21, 2008
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    I don't necessarily know why Ferentz should escape any of the finger pointing. It is his team and his recruits that have been arrested how many times in the last year and as recent as this past weekend. Obviously the control, or lack thereof, of the team is under his watch and he brought the trash in. It is bad enough that the rapists feel comfortable enough with what will not happen to them that they freely harass the victim because they feel like they are above the system. They're his responsibility...
     
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  16. bellzisu

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    #16 bellzisu, Jul 21, 2008
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    Guys I know what you are trying to compare... How high profile people get off on this and no punishment.

    Lets keep it at that... OJ killed two people. They are no longer around.

    University of Iowa covered up a rape. The person is still alive, but yes it does affect her life.

    Why don't we call a spade a spade and just say this is exactly like the Pierre Pierce incident. The football players will take the fall because they committed the crime. Just like Pierre did.

    The University will get the black eye cause they covered up and didn't learn their lesson the first time it happened with PP.

    Edit: I think people inside the university need to start answering some questions, and like I said earlier I feel no one will get punished. In my opinion, though, everyone involved need their jobs looked at.
     
  17. Clonehomer

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    If they do that they can basically kiss their position goodbye. This is an election year and if this thing is still going on in November someone will make a political statement from this. The BOR is the easiest group for politicians to attack and they will.
     
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  18. isuno1fan

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    It's too ugly. They are all gone IMO. Timing is the question.
     
  19. MontyBurns

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    This might accelerate things but it's just a matter of time before Ferentz is gone anyway. There are no schools that can justify paying over $3 million per year to a .500 football coach for very long.
     
  20. Rogue52

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    I don't see anyone being fired, unless the UI President is ticked off enough but even she appears to be at fault. I don't see anyone resigning.

    If this thing goes to trial, nothing can really be bured so who knows.

    Like Miller said, I could see Ferentz stepping down if there is another poor football season.
     

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