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Discussion in 'Big XII Conference' started by ISU_phoria, Mar 18, 2017.
Yep, BIG & SEC are rolling in $$$ right now.
Coach leaves school, strange debate of workplace ethics and societal values ensues.
Never change CycloneFanatic, never change.
Is a top 10 class considered good?
Cf is the barometer for moral high horses. Are you new here?
Still driving a high mileage used mini vans though.
This is a dark cloud on the horizon for the Big 12.
Poaching coaches and losing the recruiting wars will gut this conference in a heartbeat
That's sort of an overreaction. Just last year the Big 12 was the destination conference for the big name candidates out there. And lets be clear regarding Underwood, he demonstrated some potential at OSU. They had a decent season, but it's not like he's proven himself as a can't miss hire. Not yet anyway. Also, the reports coming out are speaking of conflicts with the AD. I'm not sure that Underwood's departure is an indication of anything at all, regarding the Big 12 or the Big 10.
I'd prefer to blow it up larger and say that it signals the end of college basketball as we know it.
As a fairly young person who's also been out "in the world" for a few years, I'd have to agree. Very few people my age that I know, friends or not, are of that mentality. Money means a lot, sure - and I can't disagree with Underwood taking a 3x raise. However, it's not everything for the vast majority. Quality of life is making a resurgence in importance. Makes me hopeful for the future, and confident in my generation's ability to not screw things up.
This, in some ways, is similar to the Cheezik situation. Here you go OSU fans, I present the Brad Button:
This is mostly true, but a bit misleading. With the Big 12's third-tier money, some of our schools can keep up with B1G (maybe not SEC). I'd say we're in the 3rd-best position financially right now of all the leagues, which is not a terrible place to be. We are definitely much stronger financially than the Pac-12.
Only major difference is that Underwood was actually successful there
Do you think Illinois knew they had Underwood when they fired Groce?
Evidently, oSu never knew this was happening. Found out on social media. Coaching ethics has become an oxymoron.
From what Ive read, thats BS. Underwood took a low salary in year one with the promise of a new contract going into year 2. OSU's AD pretty much slapped him in the face with a crap contract for year 2. OSU is a football school, and Underwood didnt want to be a part of that. I dont blame him.
Doesn't matter Groce was out no matter what.
The official was stunned to learn via Twitter that Underwood was going to Illinois, saying there was no indication he was leaving Oklahoma State.
Doubtful. But when the job came open, I bet Underwood's agent called Illinois, and the deal was done fast.