This is what happens when

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  1. acgclone

    acgclone Well-Known Member

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    you fill up your recruiting classes with guys that have no other BCS offers. Iowa sucks and they are pounding us on both sides of the line.
     
  2. Rabbuk

    Rabbuk Well-Known Member

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    In before we're talented.
     
  3. CyZinger

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    We're nowhere close to Big 12 talent, but you'd think we have more than FCS teams. There are some FCS teams with less talent that could have beat the Hawks tonight.
     
  4. im4cyclones

    im4cyclones Well-Known Member

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    Stupid. Lazy. (talking about you)
     
  5. GMan

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    I don't get it. Why does Rhoads recruit bad players? When he scouts players is he purposely picking the bad ones? I don't understand how it's possible to be as ****** at football as our players our.
     
  6. acgclone

    acgclone Well-Known Member

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    You can attack the messenger but the message is correct
     
  7. atlantacyclone

    atlantacyclone Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that anyone was expecting our O to be this lethargic. The D has kept these teams to under 30 points... that should be plenty to win against UNI and Iowa, especially considering how our O is playing.
     
  8. CycloneWanderer

    CycloneWanderer Well-Known Member

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    I htink having our starting center injured in both games has really hurt our O-line. Sam and the receivers have had little opportunity to get in any semblance of rhythm.
     
  9. GMan

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    It's year 5. It should be next man in. Why does Rhoads build no depth? Does he think his players won't get hurt?
     
  10. im4cyclones

    im4cyclones Well-Known Member

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    Our recruiting isn't any worse than it as been anytime in the past 15 years. So, no, your message isnt correct. That is your perception. But your perception =\= reality.
     
  11. dualthreat

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    If we have talented players we should put them into the game.

    Can't blame messinghams poor play calling for all of this.

    Ugly football program
     
  12. MilehighClone

    MilehighClone Active Member

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    B got a ball throw his way, made a guy miss and took it to the house. It's not talent it's play calling...
     
  13. CYLICE

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    simmer acgsclone.... We have played out of our a** with two star recruits for the last five years solely because of one man, CPR... he is slowly getting legit recruits and we will contend with a big 12 title some day if we can hold on to CPR. We r the red headed step child of the big 12 we will never have 4 and 5 star recruits lining up at our door. We gotta out coach and out play our opponents each week. We need to clean the closet out (coach mess) before we get there... It will happen gotta have patience
     
  14. acgclone

    acgclone Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if I agree that pointing to one long play, where they missed a tackle means we have talented players.

    Iowa is not exactly loaded with talent, although I must admit that Kirk has put a lot of players into the league.

    However, when I look at their position groups versus ours, I don't see a lot of Cyclone wins.

    DL: Iowa by a long shot
    LB: Iowa by a long shot (last year we had a better group, but that was our best ever)
    Secondary: Push, possibly advantage Iowa
    Punter: ISU
    Kicker: Iowa
    QB: Iowa
    RB's: Iowa
    OL: Iowa by a long shot
    TE: Push
    WR: Push
     
  15. im4cyclones

    im4cyclones Well-Known Member

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    Better because of talent or experience or coaching? They have an experienced D line this year (was not last year) and start three senior LBs. Their O line is always solid.

    Our DBs looked bad tonight because they had to give a big cushion - no safety help because we were selling out to stop the run. Their WR are no better than ours. Cannot compare QB off this game - Sam is hurt.
     
  16. WhatchaGonnaDo

    WhatchaGonnaDo Well-Known Member

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    we need better **** or our dicks will continue to get c****dk
     
  17. CarolinaCy

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    Man, I really want to believe this, but facts are facts. We consistently finish in the bottom 1/4 of the conference in recruiting rankings (pretty much since they started tracking such things). It's no surprise that's where we usually end up in the standings as well.

    I don't know if it's lack of talent or poor schemes/coaching, but I haven't seen so many guys look so completely lost on offense in one game in a long time. Sam throwing one direction, WR turning the other.... WR not breaking off routes on obvious blitzes...... OL not knowing who to block in space on the 4th and 4 bubble screen..... just so many examples. Like I said, players or coaches?
     
  18. awd4cy

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    Bottom 1/4th? I'm pretty sure we have finished last pretty much every year under Rhoads.
     
  19. im4cyclones

    im4cyclones Well-Known Member

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    We always will finish last in recruiting. That is just reality. Our only choice is to look for diamonds in the rough and coaching them up. Unless you want us to be dirty, it just isn't going to change that much.
     
  20. cyclonebillski

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    Completely undersized on D. We have better playmakers than we have ever had but the problem is so does everyone else.
     

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