The Minnesota way around the smoking ban

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  1. isucyfan

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  3. keepngoal

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    that is hilarious... just as the law is, IMO.

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  4. Cy Hard

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    Smokers the world over are the most creative minds.
     
  5. keepngoal

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    this was the name of the bill....

    Freedom to Breathe Act

    un-freakin'-believable.

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  6. Knownothing

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    I like loops in the system like they have found. The law makers always think they got ya. Then realize that people are smarter than they are.
     
  7. bos

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    Lame, to find a way around it just shows how hard the addiction is. If people put that much time and energy into things that are actually important, the world would be a better place.
     
  8. tim_redd

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    Hasn't like every writer ever been a smoker?
     
  9. dosry5

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    I agree 100%. It's an addiction that kills those who do it and those who don't.
     
  10. keepngoal

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    Important to who?

    That is the problem with socialism, it defines what IS important.

    Let the individual choose what is important.. that IS freedom.

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  11. DaddyMac

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    Exactly right. And for a bar to say their reciepts have gone down 20% since the ban just shows how sad it really is.

    "I won't go out because I can't smoke". Apparently the addiction to smoking is strong than that of alcoholism.

    No newsflash there, I guess.
     
  12. dosry5

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    Unless the individual's choice is influenced by an addiction to a cancer causing toxin that pollutes the environment. Addictions don't lend themselves to making the best choices.
     
  13. bos

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    "Important" is the greater good of the community as a whole. You can't tell me that if someone who is extremely passionate about something couldn't be better used for helping the community progress instead of fighting something as simple as a smoking ban. If they dont like the ban, maybe the could use the energy to help form a group that speaks out against freedom issues and influence new laws instead of finding ways to break the current laws.
     
  14. keepngoal

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    are you talking about smoking or

    Toothpaste (I am addicted to brushing my teeth):
    Toothpaste contains sodium laurel sulphate (SLS) to make it froth. This is a detergent which builds up in the environment and is absorbed by animals and plants. Studies have shown that it's a potential carcinogen and is also thought to affect adversely the skin and reproductive system. Natural toothpastes not containing SLS are available.

    Batteries (I use lots of these ... so you could say I am addicted to it): Batteries contain heavy metals, such as cadmium, which leak out and can contaminate ground water and, consequently, drinking water. It also takes a lot of materials and energy to produce batteries. If you're going to use batteries, you should buy rechargeable ones.

    See the point is... each of us has a nasty habit that impacts others... So make your choices the best as you can and expect that from others.

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  15. keepngoal

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    that is exactly what I thought you meant. That is the mission statement of liberals, socialist, elitist and in a not so nice way to say it, pinko commies.

    The most important thing a free country can do is protect the minority... When the majority flex its muscles on the minority freedom is taken away.

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  16. keepngoal

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    This thread may need to move into the political cave.

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  17. bos

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    Really? And that stuff is affecting me directly how? Does affect my experience in a public place? Long terms effects are nasty yes. Environmental laws are hard to pass. They are costly and require people to be responsible for recylcing and disposal of said items. I try my hardest to recycle batteries and I do use rechargeable ones as well. As this country progresses Im sure that these things will all have their turn to present themselves on the table for laws. There are alot of people who arent educated about harmful chemicals in things such as mentioned and it doesnt get presented. However with smoking, everyone has had some sort of experience with it one on one. The more the masses are exposed and experience it, the quicker you will find such laws passed.
     
  18. DaddyMac

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    Whereas the mission statement of the other side is "gimme mine, to hell with everyone else. I'm the most important thing ever"

    What a bunch of bunk.
     
  19. bos

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    This country does a great job protecting minority groups (not just ethnic) if you havent noticed. Maybe we should all go live in a country that currently has what you are mentioning and we can see if we have such issues like they do. Im betting no. If they told people they cant smoke at all, then that is a robbed freedom. Saying they cant smoke in a restaraunt or bar is not.
     

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