Question for Operations / Manufacturing Types

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  1. snowcraig2.0

    snowcraig2.0 Well-Known Member

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    Which guy do you want on your team?

    A - Individual can make 100 widgets in given time frame, while only giving 50% effort, resulting in more output, but also some bad behaviors.

    B - Individual can make 90 widgets in same time frame, while giving near 100% effort, resulting in less output, but great behaviors.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. CyArob

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    Someone's getting fired.
     
  3. dtISU

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    I thought school was out for the year. More tests?

    I'll go with B. Bad behaviors can bleed over into bigger problems.
     
  4. mtowncyclone13

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    100 x .5 = 50 good widgets per hour.
    90 x 1.0 = 90 good widgets per hour.

    B
     
  5. acqflisu

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    Behaviors are contagious and the primary source of improving a culture. Productivity can be improved with good behaviors, attitudes, training and standard work.
     
  6. VTXCyRyD

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    You choose A and up their requirement to 200 widgets per time frame, and then fire B for improved efficiency.
     
  7. 3TrueFans

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    Does % of effort directly translate into % of good widgets?
     
  8. dtISU

    dtISU Well-Known Member

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    There is definitely a correlation.
     
  9. 3TrueFans

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    The guy working at 100% effort could be a moron and produce 10 good widgets though.
     
  10. snowcraig2.0

    snowcraig2.0 Well-Known Member

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    I am saying that even while only working 50%, he can still make 100 widgets.
     
  11. DIRustCohle

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  12. 3TrueFans

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    Mtown thinks only 50 of those widgets will be any good.
     
  13. CycloneErik

    CycloneErik Well-Known Member

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    Unless the max effort guy stinks at the job. Then it's just mass production of trash.

    This whole question is too vague. What are bad behaviors? Is it just apparent that the person's underemployed? That's a management error for leaving that person in a spot that's beneath their ability.
    Or is it something that actually affects other people?


    To date, though, the people who had to give max effort had to do that because they were in over their head. That usually created more stress for them and more drama for the people around them as well as quality problems.
     
  14. Cyclonepride

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    It really depends on what those other behaviors are.
     
  15. 3TrueFans

    3TrueFans Well-Known Member

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    He takes his pants off and spins them above his head like a helicopter.
     
  16. CycloneErik

    CycloneErik Well-Known Member

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    Keeps things interesting, I guess.

    Is the production floor open enough that I have to see this happen?
     
  17. Cyclonepride

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    Are we talking about you, or someone else? Because if it's you, I'm gonna need a lot more widgets.
     
  18. coolerifyoudid

    coolerifyoudid Well-Known Member

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    Really depends on the influence that A has on other employees. If his bad attitudes are more of a "pain in the *****" variety versus a "cancer in the workforce" variety, you go with A. Given that you said it was a manufacturing/operation position, you're likely driven by numbers. I deal with several of each type of employees daily. You don't get rid of your top producers if they can be controlled with a little extra management.

    That being said, you try to hang onto a 100% effort guy in some fashion if you can. But if he's not holding his own in his job requirements, you have to do what's best for the company. I've had to fire nice guys before. It sucks.
     
  19. CycloneErik

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    Probably better for the last guy, too. If it takes 100% effort to be mediocre, that'll wear on him and inevitably create some major problems.
     
  20. NickTheGreat

    NickTheGreat Well-Known Member

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    I would breed them and hope that one of their offspring would be the high effort and high production type. And then send the low effort and low production offspring to my competitor.
     

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